Would it be okay to use trainers in single player?

[jaspersauce]

Okay as in not forum banned and nor cheat tagged (if that even happens in singleplayer)? Because I'm thinking on making a comic/machinima, and using trainers to make cops friendly and spawn stuff would be helpful.
Don't know if this belongs in general or modding, so sorry if I put this in the wrong sub.
edit: le brain fart
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[Akutare]

If it's single player and you're not using it to unlock achievements, I wouldn't think it would be an issue since you're not breaking any of the general rules laid out by Overkill.

You might be cheat tagged but that's about it, and that's only really an in game flag, so be careful and don't use that stuff in lobbies.

[Rex]

Free cam mod is ok for offline/private unsure if theres a unit spawner mod that isnt tied to a cheat/trainer so I do not recommend it.
If you unfairly obtain achievements then you can and most likely will get a ban and will require a save and achievements reset.

Edit: if you do plan on using some sort of trainer use this mod also http://paydaymods.com/mods/222/unhackme

[SecaNaChuva]

I would recomend also downloading this, as it blocks achievements and public play.
http://modwork.shop/18503

[jaspersauce]

Originally posted by |JSRL| SecaNaChuva:

I would recomend also downloading this, as it blocks achievements and public play.
http://modwork.shop/18503

thank

[Nino_Chaosdrache]

Due to that you play alone, I don't see any problem with that. It's your game after all.

[BitsOfSkin]

I think that if you want to do a machinima, it might be easier to use Source Film, eh, thingy, like the guy who made the video about an imaginary new heist.

[edit] this video :
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796576273
[/edit]

[Mr.Xavier]

Originally posted by BitsOfSkin:

I think that if you want to do a machinima, it might be easier to use Source Film, eh, thingy, like the guy who made the video about an imaginary new heist.

[edit] this video :
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796576273[/edit]

Easier...

[BitsOfSkin]

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

Originally posted by BitsOfSkin:

I think that if you want to do a machinima, it might be easier to use Source Film, eh, thingy, like the guy who made the video about an imaginary new heist.

[edit] this video :
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796576273[/edit]

Easier...

Have you ever tried getting a good machinima video on this game's engine, especially one that didn't stutter, freeze or crash ?
Especially when trying to control the AI/make it do what you want ?
Trust me, working with SFM is easier in comparison.

[Mr.Xavier]

Originally posted by BitsOfSkin:

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

Easier...

Have you ever tried getting a good machinima video on this game's engine, especially one that didn't stutter, freeze or crash ?
Especially when trying to control the AI/make it do what you want ?
Trust me, working with SFM is easier in comparison.

I get your point, but making a good video with SFM require a lot of time and effort.

[Bindal]

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

Originally posted by BitsOfSkin:

Have you ever tried getting a good machinima video on this game's engine, especially one that didn't stutter, freeze or crash ?
Especially when trying to control the AI/make it do what you want ?
Trust me, working with SFM is easier in comparison.

I get your point, but making a good video with SFM require a lot of time and effort.

But at least it gets something done - doing machinema in this game is an effort in futility due the ENEMY AI not caring, the friendly AI not being controllable and desync being also of an issue.

[Mr.Xavier]

Originally posted by Bindal:

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

I get your point, but making a good video with SFM require a lot of time and effort.

But at least it gets something done - doing machinema in this game is an effort in futility due the ENEMY AI not caring, the friendly AI not being controllable and desync being also of an issue.

I know, I just wanted to point out that doing a machinima with the game's engine is easier than doing it with SFM. Not a good one, but easier.

But showing the almighty cloaker beating the ♥♥♥♥ out of people through walls would be awesome

[Bindal]

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

Originally posted by Bindal:

But at least it gets something done - doing machinema in this game is an effort in futility due the ENEMY AI not caring, the friendly AI not being controllable and desync being also of an issue.

I know, I just wanted to point out that doing a machinima with the game's engine is easier than doing it with SFM. Not a good one, but easier.

But showing the almighty cloaker beating the ♥♥♥♥ out of people through walls would be awesome

No, it would not be easier with this game because of those mentioned reasons. It would probably never going to end up in anything at all. There might be something basic (with just following a guard or civilian) in stealth, but other than that? Nope, not going to happen.

[TSense]

Originally posted by oh no doctor connors class:

Okay as in not forum banned

You could get funny unlock times for some things which in turn gets you banned.

A mod that blocks unlocks will save you from that.
Don't worry about the cheater tag, it's not permanent

[Mr.Xavier]

Originally posted by Bindal:

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

I know, I just wanted to point out that doing a machinima with the game's engine is easier than doing it with SFM. Not a good one, but easier.

But showing the almighty cloaker beating the ♥♥♥♥ out of people through walls would be awesome

No, it would not be easier with this game because of those mentioned reasons. It would probably never going to end up in anything at all. There might be something basic (with just following a guard or civilian) in stealth, but other than that? Nope, not going to happen.

I mean in terms of editing, polishing and animation. Like I said, I see your point.

[BitsOfSkin]

Originally posted by Bindal:

Originally posted by ⊕ĦX⊕ Mr.Xavier:

I get your point, but making a good video with SFM require a lot of time and effort.

But at least it gets something done - doing machinema in this game is an effort in futility due the ENEMY AI not caring, the friendly AI not being controllable and desync being also of an issue.

Let me make a tiny correction : you can make the enemy AI care.
There's a director/overseeing script for every part of a heist, and you can technically force any NPC to follow a script.
But that's 'technically' with a boatload of caveats, because doing so often slows things down to a crawl, causes crashes, and is generally just as hard as working with SFM.
I've made some clumsy attempts at doing so, and it's rather difficult unless you're very well versed in Lua, and in scripting events.