Payday 2 - The Honest Trailer

[Infinite Thwomp Works]

So Honest Trailers just turned their sights onto our local larceny simulator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pIcEOEjxvc

For the most part, pretty damn accurate, I'd say. (Though I feel the gunplay is a fair piece better than they claim. Also, I don't think Overkill is scared about Overwatch eating up their turf)

But what about you? What are your thoughts?

[lexilogo]

As someone who's never watched Honest Trailers it's pretty alright.

The point about Overwatch is still really, really stupid though, even for a joke. People thinking Overwatch blows a certain game out of the water is often a pretty clear indication they have no idea what the hell they're talking about. Even TF2, probably one of the most comparable games out there to Overwatch, is still such a different experience I still wouldn't consider it a particularly valid argument. Same goes for Battleborn- Even though Overwatch actually DID manage to kill off Battleborn.

[Mubday]

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They went quite easy on the game, they didn't even mention the microtransactions and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from it.

it's because they'll obviously never play the game before and using level 9-10 player for the footage.

[Hawk]

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Some things that rub me the wrong way about it, though take my opinion with a grain of salt:

1) The gunplay in Payday is pretty damn good and satisfying, I don't know why repeatedly call it garbage

Gunplay feels good? That's news to me, I've always felt that even when you have the best min-max setup on every single one of your weapons that you still end up doing what "The Division" ends up being, a bulletspongy game pure and simple. That and with the last major weapons "rebalancing" they made half of the weapons inaccurate to the point of being worse accuracy wise then every single shotgun in the game and to the point where you can't mod them back to anything resembling what they used to be. Considering they continue to boost the NPC's health and armor pools with each "revision" I'd say any negative comments about PD2's gunplay are be quite accurate.

[RareWin]

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Първоначално публикувано от Hawk:

Gunplay feels good? That's news to me, I've always felt that even when you have the best min-max setup on every single one of your weapons that you still end up doing what "The Division" ends up being, a bulletspongy game pure and simple. That and with the last major weapons "rebalancing" they made half of the weapons inaccurate to the point of being worse accuracy wise then every single shotgun in the game and to the point where you can't mod them back to anything resembling what they used to be. Considering they continue to boost the NPC's health and armor pools with each "revision" I'd say any negative comments about PD2's gunplay are be quite accurate.

Not sure about this.While there certainly are examples of better gunplay, I only get "bulletsponge" feeling from OD.There also are accurate and powerful guns, "pray and spray" ones and in-betweens which feel and play differently.And,if you have trouble aiming- use sights.

[Hassat Hunter]

Havent you heard, theres no difficulty besides OD. Personally I run Mayhem and I'm having a lot of fun doing that loud with shotgun main and arbiter secondary.
Solo since I have no friends. I have most fun with a friend though (never go randoms)

[NoFlu]

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Първоначално публикувано от D U W A N G:

But Counter-Strike is a team-based shooter. The only difference is the lack of classes, which is not integrated with the term "team-based".

Except for the definition of that sub-genre, yes, classes are part of it.

Isn't it a "Team based class shooter"...?
People are just throwing all games into the same genres (like they did with RPGs).....
PD is a PvE/Horde RPG FPS
OVW is a PVP hero/class FPS
TF2 is a PVP class FPS
BF is a PVP class based FPS
CoD is a PVP FPS
Battleborn is a FPS Moba
L4D is a PVE/Horde FPS
KF2 is a PVE Class FPS
CSGO is a PVP FPS (which requires more or less skill)
(Disregarding alternative modes (e.g. TF2 MvM KF2/L4D VS mode)

Yet people like to call all of them Online Shooter.....

[Max]

Първоначално публикувано от Tuffcooke:

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The video is pretty neutral to it as it didn't mention how Overkill failed to keep their promises, cheaters, David, bug, desync, nonsense logic and invoking silly collaboration like goat sim.

[Bindal]

Първоначално публикувано от Max:

Първоначално публикувано от Tuffcooke:

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The video is pretty neutral to it as it didn't mention how Overkill failed to keep their promises, cheaters, David, bug, desync, nonsense logic and invoking silly collaboration like goat sim.

And apparently you didn't watch it at all.

[Hassat Hunter]

invoking silly collaboration like goat sim.

You have not watched it, right?

[Max]

Първоначално публикувано от Hassat Hunter:

invoking silly collaboration like goat sim.

You have not watched it, right?

They showed a scene from goat sim pack trailer but no comment on that.

[Krag824]

They had so much ♥♥♥♥ that they could throw at this game, yet they didn't mention majority of irritating things. They must have enjoyed playing it.

[Bindal]

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Първоначално публикувано от Hassat Hunter:

invoking silly collaboration like goat sim.

You have not watched it, right?

They showed a scene from goat sim pack trailer but no comment on that.

They mentioned ALL collabs in one. No need to cover all of them on their own.
Which again, shows you didn't properly watch the video.

[GunsForBucks]

Първоначално публикувано от Max:

Първоначално публикувано от Tuffcooke:

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... nonsense logic and invoking silly collaboration like goat sim.

that seems like a pretty awkward statement from you considering...

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The gunplay comment I thought was correct. Honestly it takes some time to get gun mods and knowing how to pick weapons to sync with your skill choices isn't something you pick up in a few hours of play.
They kind of ignore the fun of stealth since they were newbs and got caught all the time ... add to that not having the benefits from any perk deck.
Really I felt the guns were crap in this game when I first started.. sounds OK but meh in many cases... and tons of just outright crappy guns with no mods... most of the guns in this game could be removed IMHO.. I'm sure that alone would improve the quality of online play.

[NoFlu]

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They kind of ignore the fun of stealth since they were newbs and got caught all the time ...

They can't mention sth that doesn't exist

Първоначално публикувано от Max:

David,

That's like the most uninportant thing to mention TBH, apart from the fact that they probably didn't find anything too noteworthy about hom to make it worth putting into the video....

[Max]

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Първоначално публикувано от Max:

You have not watched it, right?

They showed a scene from goat sim pack trailer but no comment on that.

They mentioned ALL collabs in one. No need to cover all of them on their own.
Which again, shows you didn't properly watch the video. [/quote]
I watched that 3 times before I post. They didn't say goat sim is a silly crap. Just "anything they can get their hands on"