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Lloyd 4 maja 2017 o 11:25
Sicario Perk Deck
so does that mean i can now dodge in an ictv armor? 50% through the smoke bomb and 20% eachtime i get hit? and when i dodge my armor autorefills itself !!!

edit: when i get hit 5 times i have a 100% chance to hit thanks to the Twitch perk right? ^^
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Lloyd; 4 maja 2017 o 11:26
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Cipher (Zbanowany) 4 maja 2017 o 11:27 
I think we may have gotten autowin conditions for any map with turrets. We shall see once patching finishes.
Seven 4 maja 2017 o 11:52 
I'm a little confused about the implementation of this deck to be honest, but at a glance it seems to be 40% per damage instance (cooldown 4 seconds between) and 60% for standing in smoke.

Edit: Nevermind. I misread something. Still an odd implementation though.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Seven; 4 maja 2017 o 11:57
Lloyd 4 maja 2017 o 12:55 
i can confirm you can dodge with an ictv equiped
In that case, would you think its viable deck to use in ICTV? To me it seems like it can be used in a similair fashion to Kingpin, but you have to stay within the smoke bomb's area for it to work.
Akutare 4 maja 2017 o 13:00 
Początkowo opublikowane przez 2Dimensional Satisfaction:
In that case, would you think its viable deck to use in ICTV? To me it seems like it can be used in a similair fashion to Kingpin, but you have to stay within the smoke bomb's area for it to work.

It has potential especially if it can refill armor on dodge and you can tank enough hits to trigger a high enough dodge chance.
Lloyd 4 maja 2017 o 13:04 
i tested it with ictv and light ballistic with 91 armor and with the ballistic i was nearly unkillable.
with the ictv on the other hand i got downed more often . i just played 2 maps so i cant be for sure , but with lower vest and more basic dodge its easier to play with

edit : tested on DW
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Lloyd; 4 maja 2017 o 13:30
yuiforever 4 maja 2017 o 13:07 
Początkowo opublikowane przez 2Dimensional Satisfaction:
In that case, would you think its viable deck to use in ICTV? To me it seems like it can be used in a similair fashion to Kingpin, but you have to stay within the smoke bomb's area for it to work.

Smoke dodge+ICTV+sentries = invincible
andole 4 maja 2017 o 13:08 
ICTV has -55 dodge, so after you get hit 3 times you have 5% dodge and it will then get higher, until you dodge.
Lloyd 4 maja 2017 o 13:10 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Akutare:
Początkowo opublikowane przez 2Dimensional Satisfaction:
In that case, would you think its viable deck to use in ICTV? To me it seems like it can be used in a similair fashion to Kingpin, but you have to stay within the smoke bomb's area for it to work.

It has potential especially if it can refill armor on dodge and you can tank enough hits to trigger a high enough dodge chance.

yes , but i dont fully understand Twitch by now .
do you get the dodge chance with armor hit or does it have to be health dmg?
when i get hit and get the 20% dodge do i have to wait 4sec to become 20% more dodge or can i get 5hits within 1sec and insta dodge?
and does is stack in generall? or is all we get the 20% dodge ?
Quothe 4 maja 2017 o 13:11 
All decks are viable, question is how high in difficulty is it? I'm not sure this deck is OD or DW viable compared to say, rogue or anarchist. Requires a lot more testing though to find the best armor combo. LWB for more armor, or suit for higher dodge chance?

edit: However, only being able to dodge one bullet every 4 seconds (with the stacking dodge boost) is kinda rough
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Quothe; 4 maja 2017 o 13:15
andole 4 maja 2017 o 13:13 
Say, you have 0 dodge.
*hit* dodge+20
*hit* dodge+20
*dodged* dodge=0
cooldown 4 seconds
Debosy 4 maja 2017 o 14:28 
Well i hope that players do not start kick people who use this deck.

you know, smoke can be really annoying when someone want to shot.
lexilogo 4 maja 2017 o 14:32 
As far as I can tell I don't believe the smoke bomb is a dodge chance, it's just a 50% chance to negate damage as if it was a dodge. I also don't THINK Twitch stacks either.

However, I do believe it is possible to dodge in an ICTV with this.

ICTV has -55, but with Sicario you should have:

+20% from Subtle (remember in a smoke cloud your perk deck's effects are doubled)
+20% from Twitch (Assuming if isn't +40% due to being in the smoke)
+10% from being in a smoke cloud

Which is a total of 50% against the ICTV's -55%. Plus Duck & Cover, that'd result in a positive dodge chance, and I think it may well be higher. Not certain yet though.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: lexilogo; 4 maja 2017 o 14:33
Athener 4 maja 2017 o 14:42 
The only thing I'm not sure is Smoker and Twitch, does Smoker grants 50% dodge while in smoke bomb? also does Twitch stack?

If both answer is yes I think ICTV dodge is happening :bbtcat:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Athener:
The only thing I'm not sure is Smoker and Twitch, does Smoker grants 50% dodge while in smoke bomb? also does Twitch stack?

If both answer is yes I think ICTV dodge is happening :bbtcat:
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