NGBTDW/NGBTO...

[Omi]

Why does this ♥♥♥♥ even exist. Everything it does is judges people for their hours/level. Yes i know some people use it incase of hackers/cheaters. But still, it just stops people with less hours from enjoying the game, with other players.

Yes i know i probably post this in the wrong place or something, but idc. I just want people to know my point to the community. Since thats kinda the reason discussions exist.

[Ad Vice]

You can always Host Your Own Game or buy a several copies for your friends...i think they can appreciate it but i'm not sure

[Ra Katze]

I once met a NGBTO user with it set to kick players with less than 1000 hours and those using incomplete decks and certain other decks, he also kicked me and some other guy for not using inspire and all drill skills aced, don't let these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get to you.

[Yuhaney]

Originally posted by Kat:

I once met NGBTO user [--] he also kicked me and some other guy for not using inspire and all drill skills aced, don't let these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s get to you.

This very much, yes. And I am not even talking about NGBTO, just in general.

But to answer OP, there are very easy solutions to the problem: play more and/or host your own games.

[Sep]

Stop people with less hour enjoying the game? How about stop joining high difficulty lobby?

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Why does this♥♥♥♥♥♥even exist. Everything it does is judges people for their hours/level. Yes i know some people use it incase of hackers/cheaters. But still, it just stops people with less hours from enjoying the game, with other players.

Yes i know i probably post this in the wrong place or something, but idc. I just want people to know my point to the community. Since thats kinda the reason discussions exist.

Not everyone uses it to grieve, most use it because they want legit players to play with. Some (like kat mentioned) will set the bar stupidly high so only a select few can enter.

Personally, I don't use mods - but I understand NGBTO's appeal and value. It is frustrating at times getting into games at first because of mods like NGBTO. however, not having to check every profile when they join your lobby is very useful for the host. Manually checking each person as they join (for me 1/3rd being cheaters), then kicking them each takes about 10-15 seconds of time per join. Which sometimes can get you killed mid-game. If they're cheating - then they can do many different things to kill you or destroy the lobby in some form.

Ultimately, for the first 50-75 hours I would host your own game. I think 100 or so hours is good enough for DW/OD assuming the player learned as they played (some don't believe it or not). One friend can barely do DW at 600 hours, yet another can do it no issue at <100 everyone is different and NGBTO is too 'specific' for that - so those players tend to suffer more.

So in the end - I do understand where you and the other few hundred posts like this are coming from, but I understand NGBTO's value as well. So ultimately I'd have to give the "meme" at this point, and recommend you host your own game if it's really an issue you run into often.

Don't let it discourage you though, the game is still fun even with NGBTO running around.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Why does this♥♥♥♥♥♥even exist. Everything it does is judges people for their hours/level. Yes i know some people use it incase of hackers/cheaters. But still, it just stops people with less hours from enjoying the game, with other players.

Yes i know i probably post this in the wrong place or something, but idc. I just want people to know my point to the community. Since thats kinda the reason discussions exist.

It exists to keep people like you out of my OD heist.

You'll have to excuse me if players like myself would rather not carry someone who ends up in custody less then 30 seconds after the assault begins.

That's not fun for me, for the idiot who joined a difficulty they didn't prep for, or the rest of the team.

Edit:

After checking out your achievements to see what heists you've completed, I've noticed you're missing quite a few DW achievements. If you haven't even managed to complete that, I really don't have much of a doubt you'd be kicked even if NGBTDW didn't exist since you've decided you're not looking to work your way up on difficulties and just jump to the top.

Food for thought.

[Omi]

Originally posted by Zimos:

Stop people with less hour enjoying the game? How about stop joining high difficulty lobby?

Not to be rude... but you maybe didn't understand my point. For example i like to play stealth mostly and on OD difficulty, since everything below is 2 easy.

[Arrancar]

Anyway NGBTO is evil post again.
Why do people use it? Well here are some things :
- Skilled players do not want to play with low level players who will die every 30 seconds(usually as far away from objective as possible) and spam HELP!....it is easier for them to use mod than manually kick everyone(besides you can get kicked for anything)
- If you can't even complete perk deck, you should stay in lower difficulties(if host is kicking you for certain perk deck, it is his decision)
- Auto banning system against cheaters...The msot common ones are XXX used DW/OD mask without unlocking achiev etc...
- 0/9 Crew Chief players should just stay in Normal.
Well yes I saw people with 30 hours(like 2 in my 1100+ hours) who had 9/9 perk decks, but people who have hundreds of hours and incomplete perk decks are a lot more common.
People with low levels usually do not listen to host, die a lot, waste all deployables, DO NOT FOLLOW OBJECTIVES etc...These are the people who see bigger rewards in higher difficulties so they can earn more money/XP, but does not realize the difficulty of such heists and than call every XXV-100 player hacker if he does not die in 30 seconds after spawning, like them.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Not to be rude... but you maybe didn't understand my point. For example i like to play stealth mostly and on OD difficulty, since everything below is 2 easy.

Yet you have basically no OD achievements for completing the map, nevermind Deathwish or Mayhem.

That either tells us you've managed to constantly fail them over and over which supports my original points, or you're lying to us here for attention.

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Originally posted by Zimos:

Stop people with less hour enjoying the game? How about stop joining high difficulty lobby?

Not to be rude... but you maybe didn't understand my point. For example i like to play stealth mostly and on OD difficulty, since everything below is 2 easy.

There is no difference in stealth between any of the difficulties (afaik) aside from payout.

[Sep]

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Not to be rude... but you maybe didn't understand my point. For example i like to play stealth mostly and on OD difficulty, since everything below is 2 easy.

If it was as easy as you claim to be, just host your own stealth game at One Down difficulty. The level requirement to unlock DW & OD are 80.

You have no reason not to host your own game, unless you are not as good as you claim to be & need someone to carry you.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Not to be rude... but you maybe didn't understand my point. For example i like to play stealth mostly and on OD difficulty, since everything below is 2 easy.

There is no difference in stealth between any of the difficulties (afaik) aside from payout.

Titan Cams don't exist on Overkill, as well as there being just about no breakable cameras on OD.

The number of cameras also depends on the difficulty too. DW/OD has far more cameras then Overkill.

[Omi]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by Tom¡:

Not to be rude... but you maybe didn't understand my point. For example i like to play stealth mostly and on OD difficulty, since everything below is 2 easy.

Yet you have basically no OD achievements for completing the map, nevermind Deathwish or Mayhem.

That either tells us you've managed to constantly fail them over and over, or you're lying to us here for attention.

i've completed all the commons stealth mission on OD, so i don't know what you're talking about

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

There is no difference in stealth between any of the difficulties (afaik) aside from payout.

Titan Cams don't exist on Overkill, as well as there being just about no breakable cameras on OD.

The number of cameras also depends on the difficulty too. DW/OD has far more cameras then Overkill.

True, been awhile since I played the lower difficulties - so forgot about titan's not being a thing. I'm going to get some coffee.

Not to mention with the update 100 skill tree's most things that used to be somewhat difficult to deal with (seeing where guards are - dealing with titan cameras etc) are far easier to do now. Especially with jack of all trades bringing ECMs / Trip Mines etc.

[Nighthawk]

Honestly a line from watchdogs 2 comes to mind: "Congraduations, you have been pre-rejected for our credit card."
Give newbs a chance. Then kick them.