Neutrals outting coven

[Tom]

Whats up with all these "neutral" roles outing coven? Your neutral you have no alliance you shouldn't side with anyone, yet whenever a neut evil has the chance they out coven or worse state from the begging they're going to work with town. Surely this is considered throwing your not playing as your role description.

[Captain Autismo]

Because they are neutral. If they can argue that they arent priority, and that town should hang someone else, it benefits them, keeping them alive a little longer to try and achieve their aims. Actively siding with town however is a different story

[Tom]

Originally posted by Captain Autismo:

Because they are neutral. If they can argue that they arent priority, and that town should hang someone else, it benefits them, keeping them alive a little longer to try and achieve their aims. Actively siding with town however is a different story

Im on about once theyve been found guilted and about to hang they say "oh btw so and so is coven" is straight up throwing.

[Rhyane]

And what about Coven using Deathnotes to out Immunes? Is that throwing too in your point of view?

Anyways, it doesn't matter for the game, as Gamethrowing is specified as "actively going against YOUR wincondition" - if you expose someone who is NOT your faction (at least as long as you don't know they are, hidden 2nd SK/WW/Arso/Shroud are exeptions to this as you have no nightly communication possibilites), it's NOT gamethrowing.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Rhyane:

And what about Coven using Deathnotes to out Immunes? Is that throwing too in your point of view?

Anyways, it doesn't matter for the game, as Gamethrowing is specified as "actively going against YOUR wincondition" - if you expose someone who is NOT your faction (at least as long as you don't know they are, hidden 2nd SK/WW/Arso/Shroud are exeptions to this as you have no nightly communication possibilites), it's NOT gamethrowing.

So players who say "Im WW im working with town, tell me who to kill" is that not taking clear sides when their role again says they are neutral?

[H11DN-D4NG3R]

Tbh. I only usually say after getting revealed ''Yo im Insert NK, and im now Anti Coven''.

[Tom]

cant make this up just had a pirate telling town d2 the three roles which was 2 coven

[rognik]

Gamethrowing is when you ruin not only your own chance at a win, but your teammates'. A hanging coven outing his team in his will is throwing. Outing coven as a neutral is evening the imbalance. Plus, if you're getting hanged and already lost, you can choose if you help one side or another. Remember that in half those cases, the coven probably had a hand in ending your game, so why not ruin theirs?

[Ten4]

Originally posted by Tom:

cant make this up just had a pirate telling town d2 the three roles which was 2 coven

It’s a solid tactic, he helps town win even if he has to kill a townie. As Pirate i always tell who my targets are, it helps confirm town and lets everyone know which rolls are in play.

[Ten4]

Originally posted by Tom:

Originally posted by Rhyane:

And what about Coven using Deathnotes to out Immunes? Is that throwing too in your point of view?

Anyways, it doesn't matter for the game, as Gamethrowing is specified as "actively going against YOUR wincondition" - if you expose someone who is NOT your faction (at least as long as you don't know they are, hidden 2nd SK/WW/Arso/Shroud are exeptions to this as you have no nightly communication possibilites), it's NOT gamethrowing.

So players who say "Im WW im working with town, tell me who to kill" is that not taking clear sides when their role again says they are neutral?

Nope, the WW could turn on the town at any time messing with voting power.

[4t2]

Neither coven nor town nor any other subfaction is your friend so outing anyone is not gamethrowing.

Originally posted by Tom:

cant make this up just had a pirate telling town d2 the three roles which was 2 coven

Which should make town more willing to let the pirate live, increasing his chances of winning. So?

[Ben bitmişim]

When the neutral roles are neutral :o

[Belgian Problem]

Originally posted by Tom:

cant make this up just had a pirate telling town d2 the three roles which was 2 coven

Sounds like a good tactic for the pirate to avoid town's ire whilst they focus on completing their objective. How would that constitute gamethrowing?

[Skyler Lightning]

Originally posted by Belgian Problem:

Originally posted by Tom:

cant make this up just had a pirate telling town d2 the three roles which was 2 coven

Sounds like a good tactic for the pirate to avoid town's ire whilst they focus on completing their objective. How would that constitute gamethrowing?

plus pirate can lie about their target in order avoid being targeted by town