LMGs

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

Honestly, they are grossly under-powered for how bad of an accuracy they were given.

Either one of two things need to change,
1. The accuracy should be comparable to a standard fully automatic rifle.
2. The accuracy need to be comparable to a standard fully automatic rifle when sitting still, AND the damage needs to be comparable.

Having shot a 240 IRL, these weapons are very accurate and this gamified version is practically the worst class of weapon in the game due to terrible damage and accuracy per shot.

[Akameka]

on thread note so far shrapnel SOCR and the shrapnel (vector)smg seem to be the most OP. The legendary bullseye sniper is powerful af too so maybe that can enter the triangle but its markedly slower unless you headshot which isnt that hard but still you could just shoot them with 35 crits in that time (and headshots too) so i dunno

Well, I don't know how it compare in terms of DPS, but a one star+10 legendary bolt action can easily ditch 12k-16k per headshot. And that's an unoptimised build. Although I have a +40% ROF (-10% DMG) and +18% HS damage calibration which is pretty good IMO. But that literally OS almost everything so the weapon itself is probably top tier.

[Captain Pansy]

LMG's should be high caliber powerful, but inaccurate weapons. right now they are a like a weaker version of an assault rifle. which is lame.

[Akameka]

Originally posted by Captain Pansy:

LMG's should be high caliber powerful, but inaccurate weapons. right now they are a like a weaker version of an assault rifle. which is lame.

Yeah, probably bigger damage than ARs, greater RPM, but way lower accuracy could work. Would force you in short/medium range like shotguns though

[jmotivator]

All weapons are situational. If you have a properly leveled LMG for the enemy you are fighting, and the boot mod that reloads 80% of the clip after killing 2 enemies, you can burn through swarms of mobs easily.

With that mod on your boots you don't have a 75-100 round magazine, your magazine in an LMG is the size of however any bullets you have.

It will also burn down any boss with a pronounced weak spot faster than most other weapons.

Know who you are fighting and bring the best 2 weapons for the enemy type.

When I'm fighting humans I prefer SP and Pistol, Deviants I usually bring LMG and Rifle.

[EyeXombie]

None of the weapons are balanced in this game. lol.. It's like the sniper rifle that uses a 50 cal as its model but does less damage than the sniper rifle that should have a smaller bullet. lol.. The weapons don't really make sense at all.

[BurlsoL]

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

usually in games where the machine gun has lower damage per bullet, the ammo is either extremely plentiful or very cheap to buy/make.

This is kinda the problem.

Magazine size for LMG is still fairly small and cost per bullet is still high. Being that 1/3 of shots miss their target at 50ft away and it takes 3x longer to reload than an AR, it will always be less efficient than even a shotgun at the same range.

If they aren't going to bump up accuracy with weapons, they need to at least make ammo for one designed around spray and pray be easier to work with.

[Zouls]

Im not sure if i got a crazy one but in first person view its literally pinpoint with zero recoil. Its the fwd frozen one.

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all of them are if you tap it

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

Originally posted by Zouls:

Im not sure if i got a crazy one but in first person view its literally pinpoint with zero recoil. Its the fwd frozen one.

It's almost zero. but yes zooming in does allow you to be very accurate with any gun.

[Xaelon]

I have found the legendary burn LMG to be quite good personally. Everything except bosses dies long before I drain the mag.

The explosion it causes is strong enough to OHKO most mooks and thanks to the BBQ gloves bosses melt rather fast too.

The weapon's weakest aspect is definitely the accuracy though. It's hard to hit much of anything while hip firing. Short bursts while aiming work fine though.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the gun does once I get the Hardy Gloves next week. I assume those will be quite good with the mod that makes burn only lose half it's stacks when it expires.