Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier

pretspot Nov 19, 2013 @ 7:21am
LOW SPEC-ers PAY ATTENTION!!!
Ticket Title: "I want to spend my money on games that are worth it!"

Dear sir/madam,

Yesterday (18 Nov. 2013) I bought “Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier” (PC) and I have been tweaking it non-stop trying to make it playable. My system specs are smack down in the middle between the high and low system requirements so in theory this game should run fine, but it doesn’t!
Even when I scale everything down to the lowest quality and play it at a ridiculous low resolution this game can’t maintain a high or steady framerate.
As I read, it seems that I’m not the only one having this issue. Even people with uber-computers are having trouble running this game and are required to make big graphical concessions in order to run it a solid 60 FPS!
I’m also a "freaking" "expert" at making games run on minimal systems, but for this game there are really no options. The cfg-file is very limited and the are no ini-files to play around with. There are simply no options to truly disable the eye-candy-effects like; Shadows, “Depth of Field” or Fog-volumes. We are stuck with these absolute frame-rate killer-effects and there are really no official or unofficial means to turn them off.
I also can’t find any good advice how to make it playable in the help sections or on the forums. And there are no "performance" mods around for this thing.

In all of my 8 years of being a very happy Steam customer, I have never, never seen such an un-optimized game. And the real sad thing is, that this game could have been great if only it wasn’t this technical monstrosity which sucks every bit of fun right out of my experience.

This is the reason I’m asking for my money back. The system requirements for this game are a lie and any real support from this company has evaporated, just like my money!
I also think you should take this game out of your assortment because this performance issue only seems to be the tip of the iceberg. My buddy who purchased the game with all the DLC has big trouble integrating this new content and thus far hasn’t found any solutions. This also seems to be a well known issue with this game...

I have paid 15 euro’s for this "deception" which I would like to have refunded so I can buy good games and support companies that are really worth it.

Godspeed,

Peter

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Now the good news:

The survival wave-based game mode; “Guerrilla” runs better than the campaign and is also “pretty” fun…

When I use 3Doverrider and force triple buffering & V-Sync out of the game it gives me a noticeable better framerate,
but it’s still not playable for me.

AHHHHHHHH!!!

60 FPS or BUST!!!
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AKMARK5000 Nov 19, 2013 @ 9:39am 
Try SweetFX... http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=381912 ... and do yourself a big fat favor and download/install/use the updated Configurator version (containing the 1.5.1 files)..... its all free!
Last edited by AKMARK5000; Nov 19, 2013 @ 9:53am
Uberhaupt Nov 19, 2013 @ 2:18pm 
Ubisoft didn't give a ♥♥♥♥ at launch until half a year later, I havn't even completed the story mode yet
Last edited by Uberhaupt; Nov 19, 2013 @ 2:19pm
pretspot Nov 20, 2013 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by AKMARK5000:
Try SweetFX... http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=381912 ... and do yourself a big fat favor and download/install/use the updated Configurator version (containing the 1.5.1 files)..... its all free!

Using a Graphical Enhancement Suite to increase my fps?
That would be a first…
But I’m willing to try everything.

I have used SweetFX before with “FarCry 2” for that sweet “VIBRANCE” setting.
What settings am I looking for if I want more fps with SweetFX?
Could you point me in the right direction when?
AKMARK5000 Nov 21, 2013 @ 8:40am 
I notice that when you turn off some in-game graphic options (eg. postprocessing, antialiasing, vsync and set shadows to medium and use directx 9 and then apply SweetFX (don't change any SweetFX default settings except the viberance one... turn viberance up to your desire).... you end up with more FPS, yet the graphics still look nice.

ILately, I have been getting presets form the GSN Game Community Website. Specifically, GSN's SweetFX topic area. There's a huge selection of games that have SweetFX applied. This is all created by an entusiastic SweetFX fan named Omnipotus. He also created a STEAM group called "SweetFX Junkies."

==> http://gsngaming.com/forum/112-sweetfx-presets/
==> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SweetFX

You probebly know what "presets" are and stuff, but just in case you do not, this article covers it. ==> http://webportjunctionforum.forumotions.net/t91-game-control-sweetfx-shader-suite#120
Last edited by AKMARK5000; Nov 21, 2013 @ 8:43am
Spacefentionz Nov 21, 2013 @ 11:14pm 
I hate to say it, but this game is pretty much dead in the eyes of the developers. This was my FAVORITE third person tactical shooter during launch, but it became very apparent that they would eat up all the money threw at it (DLC's) without dishing out any fixes. I fear that once you actually do fix up your frame rate issues, you'll finally notice everything wrong with the network (horrible lag which lends to one sided games), and then decide that you're done with the game. If I'm not mistaken, the same team that worked on this game will work on "The Division", and hopefully it will have as much potential as GRFS and they'll actually give a ♥♥♥♥ and maintain the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.
Methtical20CM Nov 23, 2013 @ 1:55am 
I don't have any problem with this game, only a connection problem on mltiplayer that disconnects me (but not all the time) and those black borders because i've got a 19:9 aspect ratio. Did u ever try to play it on DX9? It can increase ur fps.
pretspot Nov 28, 2013 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by AKMARK5000:
Try SweetFX... http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=381912 ... and do yourself a big fat favor and download/install/use the updated Configurator version (containing the 1.5.1 files)..... its all free!

WHAUUUWWW!!!
I did myself a big fat favor and installed the “SweetFX-Configurator” by CeeJay.dk
It’s Sweet FX made easy!
Freaking nice software!

Now the bad news: It didn’t impact my framerate in any way.
Negative or Positive…
Which is actually good news for all the users of this thing.
Wolverine 1974 Nov 28, 2013 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by AKMARK5000:
I notice that when you turn off some in-game graphic options (eg. postprocessing, antialiasing, vsync and set shadows to medium and use directx 9 and then apply SweetFX (don't change any SweetFX default settings except the viberance one... turn viberance up to your desire).... you end up with more FPS, yet the graphics still look nice.

ILately, I have been getting presets form the GSN Game Community Website. Specifically, GSN's SweetFX topic area. There's a huge selection of games that have SweetFX applied. This is all created by an entusiastic SweetFX fan named Omnipotus. He also created a STEAM group called "SweetFX Junkies."

==> http://gsngaming.com/forum/112-sweetfx-presets/
==> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SweetFX

You probebly know what "presets" are and stuff, but just in case you do not, this article covers it. ==> http://webportjunctionforum.forumotions.net/t91-game-control-sweetfx-shader-suite#120

I love SweetFX. I use it on every game that will accept it. Here is the preset site I goto if you would like to see some nice settings with comparison screenshots. http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/

OP, I have not checked lately but http://enbdev.com/ has some optimization injectors I use on a few games. It might be worth your time to check it out since you are already stuck with the game. Who knows, maybe it will take you somewhere better in your search. They have pretty good forums there.
Last edited by Wolverine 1974; Nov 28, 2013 @ 5:46pm
pretspot Nov 28, 2013 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by Thirteen K:
I don't have any problem with this game, only a connection problem on mltiplayer that disconnects me (but not all the time) and those black borders because i've got a 19:9 aspect ratio. Did u ever try to play it on DX9? It can increase ur fps.

: ) That was numero uno!
And yes, DX9 performance is a lot better / more stable.

It’s my ancient video-card (HD4890) and the fact that you cannot disable the true framerate killers in this game that is bottlenecking me. My mates just installed it, and if they stick to the “medium” settings they get a solid 60fps (GTX 570 & GTX 560 – I Hate Them!)

The only stuff that really impacted my framerate beyond using the lowest settings in-game, were; using “3Doverrider” and turning down the Mipmap quality in my catalyst control center.

Also setting this thing on high performance via the taskmanger had an negative impact on my framerate?

The magnetic view seems to be a bit of workaround, because it’s very framerate friendly.

Wish I had just a little more control over the graphical settings. Thus far I have been able to make every game playable on my low spec system (except Saints Row 2 & 3).

Got my sights on a HD7870 for X-mas.
hi, thx a lot for the info's to those sights.:)
Don't have the game yet & not sure how this will run on my q9550 / gtx 285.
I too am looking towards a vid card upgrade prolly a r9 290 (x).
Just 1 question, do ppl have more problems with nvidia or ATI cards in this game ?
I'am not a fan boy of either, just like to get my $$ worth.
KrazyBee Dec 5, 2013 @ 4:25am 
idk i can run everything maxed out no problem.Time for u to get better pc
pretspot Dec 5, 2013 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by OugaBooga:
hi, thx a lot for the info's to those sights.:)
Don't have the game yet & not sure how this will run on my q9550 / gtx 285.
I too am looking towards a vid card upgrade prolly a r9 290 (x).
Just 1 question, do ppl have more problems with nvidia or ATI cards in this game ?
I'am not a fan boy of either, just like to get my $$ worth.

It's not brand related, it's just the lack of “real” GPU computing power.
If you don’t own a “uber” video-card, you are going to “feel” the heavy load!

You should take a look at this article.
They are running on almost the same system you have got.
http://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/tom-clancys-ghost-recon-future-soldier-pc-performance-analysis/

Also this site is great for comparing GPU performances:
http://www.hwcompare.com/category/gpu/

Compared to my HD4890, I would say we are both in trouble when playing this game…
pretspot Dec 5, 2013 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Krazy Bee:
idk i can run everything maxed out no problem.Time for u to get better pc

Last week I would have agreed with you,
but during the “Black Friday” sales, I bought a whole lot of games that all run just fine.
I need to tinker with the graphical settings,
but they all give me a solid 60 fps while playing at 1920x1080.

This "Ghost Recon Future Soldier" is not worth an hardware update.
KrazyBee Dec 5, 2013 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Peditor132:
Originally posted by Krazy Bee:
idk i can run everything maxed out no problem.Time for u to get better pc

Last week I would have agreed with you,
but during the “Black Friday” sales, I bought a whole lot of games that all run just fine.
I need to tinker with the graphical settings,
but they all give me a solid 60 fps while playing at 1920x1080.

This "Ghost Recon Future Soldier" is not worth an hardware update.

try disabling direct x stuff,ambient occulision and stuff.if ur graphics card is not powereful enough, try lowering it down.if u have mid level pc and try to run this game all maxed out, ur setting urself for dissapointment..
Realhero25 Dec 14, 2013 @ 8:52am 
Bad news. I heard it's just the Steam version of GR:FS that has framerate issues. It's just outdated compared to the Uplay version. I heard that the Uplay version runs much better due to patches.
Last edited by Realhero25; Dec 14, 2013 @ 8:54am
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