Character Compare.

[Havon Bob Topal]

Has any body notice that Amy Rose and a few other racers have very low statistics when compared to other characters cars. Example : Shadow, Gilius Thunderhead and Vyse. I will use Amy Rose for my next example, having speed that only gets up to three, boost that gets up to four and having a low all-star wtih acceleration adding little to the game not having many walls that are hard to avoid. I am also comparing the cars statistics to Mario Kart Wii and Jax X Combat Racing.

[PeeJay Bonobo]

I'm going to focus mainly on ASRT on this one:

At least, Amy has more going on for her than you think. She has one of the smallest frames in the game in every vehicle form (That's more than I can say about Ralph, a top-tier character for example), and her 3 Speed allows Amy to have her 4 Boost last longer (console mod, mind you), which is more than I can say about AiAi's 2 Speed and 5 Boost (Again, console mod).

The reason why my focus was mainly on ASRT, is because even though I never touched Jak X before (might play that, sometime), I don't want to compare three different game mechanics.

[Baby Vaso]

^ The information above is completely wrong. No offense PJ. Amy's car on a technical level is bottom tier at best along side Amigos, slow car + bad car frame = terrible characters.

[Seraphita]

Say that to some people I saw with Amy owning. Heck, I can easily win expert races with Amy if I really wanted. You'd be stupid thinking she's "slow". She lets you believe she's slow only to show you how wrong you are. :P

[Havon Bob Topal]

Most cars are about the same size and AiAi has five boost and four all-star. Ralph has a lot faster super balanced than Amy's super balanced, making me wonder how thats balanced. Sera , Amy is a lot slower than a lot of racers it's just mean to call someone stupid for thinking that.

[Mr. Buddy]

Pfft, Everybody knows that B.D. Joe is the only character worth using

[PeeJay Bonobo]

Originally posted by Twilight Sparkle:

AiAi has five boost and four all-star

Which means nothing if AiAi's targets aren't in claustrophobic spaces; in wide open spaces, AiAi's giant bananas will never hit anything.

You can't really pay attention to the All-Star stat, it isn't accurate in determining how useful your All-Star stat is. AiAi has 4 All-Star, but it's garbage unless it's the stairwell in Seasonal Shrines, for example, but AGES has the same 4 All-Star, but it hits anything that doesn't time their swerves correctly.

Amy's All-Star, however, is good for mid-range, though, so get within eyesight before trying to attack with it.

And since we're talking All-Star moves, let's move on to items in general.

A lot of people who main bottom- to mid-tier characters like you (especially you, I've raced you many a time before) and I often find themselves in constant attack mode because we know for a fact that we need those items if we want to win races. So, it'll pretty much boil down to your item accuracy and item evasion skills in the end.

As a matter of fact, it's not the character that sucks, it's how you use them.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Twilight Sparkle:

Sera, Amy is a lot slower than a lot of racers it's just mean to call someone stupid for thinking that.

I didn't call anyone stupid, I just said one would be stupid to believe she's slow... Apparently you can't use her right either if you think she's slow. I saw her in some players' hands being 'very' fast.

[Havon Bob Topal]

Sera, am a very good Amy Rose player. Am I stupid for saying she is slow? Lewd Vig, All weapons can be dodge and Amys All-Star is very short.

[Seraphita]

"Very good" and "slow" doesn't work well together. if you were very good with her, you'd be fast. Tails is not the fastest character but I am fast with him because I'm good with him. She is slow if you drive like an oldie and without ever doing drifts boosts and tricks. Put her in the hands of a real skillful player, she is very fast.

One race I played in, I managed to get 10 seconds behind an Amy player and everyone else behind me ended DNF. That player didn't cheat but he had godly skills and as result, he made Amy one of fastest characters I've ever seen in a race.

Edit note: Using the word stupid was a figure of speech. Stop acting like you're all offended about it, this wasn't the intention. Plus I never said she was the fastest of all characters, I just said she wasn't slow.

[PeeJay Bonobo]

Originally posted by Twilight Sparkle:

Lewd Vig, All weapons can be dodge and Amys All-Star is very short.

I'm very well aware that anything can be dodged (Hell, I even hinted at how to dodge AGES's All-Star without any item), and what I meant by mid-range is basically within 3-5 yards of your target. Try to target someone who's further away, and you won't touch them until you get closer.

[stealthXG]

Originally posted by Sera:

She is slow if you drive like an oldie and without ever doing drifts boosts and tricks. Put her in the hands of a real skillful player, she is very fast.

That's the thing, if you put her in the hands of a very skillful player of course she's gonna be fast to other racers, but to that skillful racer she's slow. That skillful player could go a lot faster with someone that has higher speed and boost. Heck, even AiAi's console can outspeed amy's console on some tracks.

[Seraphita]

So the way you say it is "For a pro, fast = slow but super fast = fast"? I think the proved fact here is that some people go so fast that they lose the meaning of what fast really is. Because I am usually very fast and I still find Amy godly like any other well used characters. lol...

I admit I am extremely fast with Metal Sonic (at levels I never reached to with say Amy) but I still find Amy fast anyway. At least it is the feeling I got when racing with her or watching other players race with her.

The real thing is, a very skillful Amy (if we forget the fact that 5/1/1/5 characters are faster in a straight line) can be deadly fast if she masters tricks, drifts and boosts. As I said before, I raced against an Amy in the monkey temple course once (the first race of 2nd set) and as Tails, I only came 2nd 10 seconds after her and everyone else behind me was DNF. We were 9 in the race I believe. As a note, I am a 3 stars license racer...

Sure, you could say that if that player used a "faster" character with the same kind of skill, he may have been even faster but god Amy was fast on that race. Never seen a racer flash so fast ahead of me before. Granted, she was out of range of attack items and probably avoided bees like a pro but jeez. I wasn't getting hit so much if even at all myself and I never could catch up to her even if my life depended on it.

Just a note to the first post, no characters really have more stats than other characters. All characters have 12 stat points (not including All-stars) in their default builds and mods. Only maybe AGES is an exception because it has 13 stat points. (5/1/1/6). The issue is only maybe acceleration because nobody really use this stat when efficiency is involved. Only speed, boost and maybe handling (for people like me) really matter. Putting stat points in acceleration is a waste, if you think about it.

[stealthXG]

Well, that's Temple Trouble. I'm pretty sure any skilled player that knows how to play that track can go fast with any character because it's purely based on skill and believe me, I know. Do you know how hard it is to pull off that jump on Temple Trouble from the portal to the first transform ring with Amy? Even AiAi can pull it off more than her because his console has better boost. Plus, Amy's boat is pure trash. Aside from that, if you throw her on any track that requires a lot of boosting. You'll see that she's not very fast at all.

About stats, there's a major difference in speed between level 4 and 5+ boost which makes it unbalanced. It also explains why Amy is much slower, along with Amigo and Meemee compared to other console mods. Heck, I was using Amy on Graveyard Gig once and I was way ahead, but a friend of mine was catching up pretty quickly with Nights because of that boost difference. Which is why Amy is considered one of the slower characters.

[Seraphita]

Interesting... I admit I noticed something like this just like... yesterday I believe. I am usually fast with Tails but he is still only 4/2/2/4. (But I love him more than anyone else and I doubt anyone will make me change that). Except I needed to win against the expert ghost so I used Metal sonic with 5/1/1/5 (ironically it was in temple trouble)

I tried forever before. With Metal Sonic, I needed only one try. During the race and on boosts pads, I noticed myself catching up to my Tails ghost without much trouble. Once I arrived at the whirlpool, I was already ahead of the expert ghost and I had not even used my speed boost yet. When I used it, I left no chances to them to catch up to me.

The difference between my expert racing ghosts (Tails and Metal Sonic) was noticeable, though. I'd never consider Tails slow but Metal Sonic was indeed faster.

[TSx* Naxer]

How can people dare to insult my favourite character slow?! (btw I skipped last 3 post cuz I was too lazy) I have played Shadow and Metal Sonic on console mod (5 speed & 5 boost) and I must admit they are awesome. But they can be easily defeated on more curved tracks (burning depths, race of AGES, chilly castle etc.) by Amy.
As the game says each car has their own unique stats, and so Amy is intended for more curved tracks. However in the hands of a pro she can do well on every single track. I remember that I owned a lot of people with Amy on tracks like Dream valley or Carrier zone.

Everyone who considers some characters slow, deal with it. You will get owned by these "slow" characters, either on straight or curved tracks.

EDIT: I just owned few races in a row with Amy. Find and ask Ninolaf and Ironstorm. Maybe I ended 2nd in 2 races but I definitly showed the style.