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Mr. Buckaroo Apr 23, 2018 @ 7:02pm
Kind of mad the Novakid is getting no love
I love the Novakids, they are probably one of the best races in the game.

But they have been neglected by the devs.

Proof: They were in the game before the Story changed to it's now current format. They are not in the story
-They are not in the Protectorate intro
-They are not in the Artifact Retrieval Quest
-They are impossible to find

They have made little to no impact on anything of any relevance. They don't do anything but exist, the other races are involved, perhaps this note blends with the above, maybe it is a result of the above. Regardless they don't make much of an impact on any of the other races

They've been tacked on aimlessly as if to do nothing more than say "here have a new backless race"

I don't play multiplayer too often and as a result am not familiar with the popularity of the Novakid amongst other players. I do however get a strong vibe that the Novakids, they just don't matter, they have about as much relevance as a mod race and as a vanilla race that doesn't feel right at all.

TL;DR Novakid good, Novakid no getty enoughy, details above.
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ZappyDoggo May 2, 2018 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by goose noises:
Originally posted by Age:
♥♥♥♥ Avali's. Novakids at least have an actual Style.
what do you define as a style my guy

I think he's a cowboy.
{루루}RuRu May 2, 2018 @ 6:21pm 
Avali furnitures are kinda cool.
Sileka May 3, 2018 @ 4:50pm 
Originally posted by xephosarkeyus:
novakids need a storyline. .3.
Can you really give a storyline to a race that tends to forget the very things the previous generation did?

I mean they are pretty much a Kinder with ADD... O_o

(Don't be mistaken, Novakid is my race of choice.)

ZappyDoggo May 3, 2018 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by lilvulpix:
Originally posted by xephosarkeyus:
novakids need a storyline. .3.
Can you really give a storyline to a race that tends to forget the very things the previous generation did?

I mean they are pretty much a Kinder with ADD... O_o

(Don't be mistaken, Novakid is my race of choice.)

Well, instead of a classic old scanning quest, it could be interogations and stuff, and stopping a novakid-thief group that currently have the Novakid-race key.
peaches♡ May 3, 2018 @ 5:19pm 
The community basically owns Starbound at this point lol

Originally posted by xephosarkeyus:
Well, instead of a classic old scanning quest, it could be interogations and stuff, and stopping a novakid-thief group that currently have the Novakid-race key.

I doubt that novakids would've gotten a key anyways considered they were born from the Cultivator after it died, either way bounty hunting could've been the answer to the whole "wtf are the sun people lores", and I say that they're born of the Cultivator because of this tumblr post[starboundseconds.tumblr.com] but that's LITERALLY the only piece of lore they have.

idk, with such a small team of 16 working on two new games (Wargroove and Witchbrook), I'm not surprised that they moved on from Starbound since they kind of just threw out there and called it done. Like I said maybe console will bring in more people!

Anyways if you're like me who's really thirsty for just any kind of lore in this desert of a media piece, I have a friend whose blog has a bunch of cool theories and headcanons on each of the races here[nyotasaimiri.tumblr.com]. even though it's not canon, it's fun to think about it. she also had an offer from CF to publish her Starbound story as an unofficial novel which I think is pretty cool

But one thing I really want to see though is htf do politics work in this game? ik US.E touches on all this but I'm still beefing up my character to tier 6 lol. What powers are there? Is there even an intergalactic council? are there borders in space? it's just a mystery......

on top of that, you know what I really want? Cities. WHERE are the big Star Wars cities??? all we have is lonely scattered villages-- I want to see planetwide cities like Coruscant. I know Citybound is a thing but because this is a 2D game, it's really just a lush planet with a city background. I think it'd be cool to get like, a brochure that would put significant places in the universe into your SAIL that you can just go to, like the Outpost or the Science Outpost from FU.

Originally posted by Medicfast90:
Originally posted by ♡ H. Peaches:
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btw H.peaches oof sorry for me being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ earlier yeah? Just gonna get this outta the way before some sort of "rivalry" starts. I have too many to get another. I'm a sadboi.

+ you're good, i forgive you! I totally understand your reaction-- so don't sweat it
ZappyDoggo May 3, 2018 @ 5:30pm 
Would be nice to see fully fledged out cities instead of settlements for once.

Although I think that is also gonna be difficult to impliment + will be heavy on lower end PCs. I think CF was only trying to reach to the low-end customers as well, Considering they wouldn't have PCs that could run possible hundreds of NPCs on one planet (even if the game only renders so much at once to help with that issue.)

It would probably take tweaking, and hopefully some form of 'render distance' options, which I feel like they're missing out on, because something like that helps quite a few sandbox-based games. :P

In another note, if CF ever does (Or even gets close to) Doing an update that relates to the Novakid race, is anyone hoping for some form of land transport that isn't a hover vehicle? (I.E. trains.)
Tengu_Civitas May 3, 2018 @ 10:49pm 
Originally posted by lilvulpix:
Originally posted by xephosarkeyus:
novakids need a storyline. .3.
Can you really give a storyline to a race that tends to forget the very things the previous generation did?

With the power of storywriting you can. US.E has a planned faction for the "Floran Liberation Front" which involves burning their own species that refuse to accept tech. For the Novakids a small group exists on some nondescript desert world where the local mayor is able to break the local populace out of constant forgetfulness and into what equates into an industrial revolution and questioning their existance (later killed by the player due to needing to fulfill a favor by the Vharkev Gang in order to help hijack a United Systems Rocket Train). Without atleast the "special" few that are able to retain knowledge the Nova's would have never even reached the Renaissance Age or discovered firearms. Atleast one needs to "revolutionize" a local populace before that information spreads across to other territories.



Originally posted by xephosarkeyus:
Originally posted by lilvulpix:
Can you really give a storyline to a race that tends to forget the very things the previous generation did?

I mean they are pretty much a Kinder with ADD... O_o

(Don't be mistaken, Novakid is my race of choice.)

Well, instead of a classic old scanning quest, it could be interogations and stuff, and stopping a novakid-thief group that currently have the Novakid-race key.

You see interrogations and other criminal elements like that would be great but only if done in a manner that feels... worth it. Simply "talking" isn't always going to work. Sometimes a little bit of "physical persuasion" will have to happen. Also incompetency doesn't work as well as one might think as it just comes off as unecessarily stupid, it comes off as awkward more than "funny". A criminal gang should be competent, especially one in possession of high-value objects.




Originally posted by ♡ H. Peaches:
The community basically owns Starbound at this point lol

Originally posted by xephosarkeyus:
Well, instead of a classic old scanning quest, it could be interogations and stuff, and stopping a novakid-thief group that currently have the Novakid-race key.

I doubt that novakids would've gotten a key anyways considered they were born from the Cultivator after it died, either way bounty hunting could've been the answer to the whole "wtf are the sun people lores", and I say that they're born of the Cultivator because of this tumblr post[starboundseconds.tumblr.com] but that's LITERALLY the only piece of lore they have.

idk, with such a small team of 16 working on two new games (Wargroove and Witchbrook), I'm not surprised that they moved on from Starbound since they kind of just threw out there and called it done. Like I said maybe console will bring in more people!

Anyways if you're like me who's really thirsty for just any kind of lore in this desert of a media piece, I have a friend whose blog has a bunch of cool theories and headcanons on each of the races here[nyotasaimiri.tumblr.com]. even though it's not canon, it's fun to think about it. she also had an offer from CF to publish her Starbound story as an unofficial novel which I think is pretty cool

But one thing I really want to see though is htf do politics work in this game? ik US.E touches on all this but I'm still beefing up my character to tier 6 lol. What powers are there? Is there even an intergalactic council? are there borders in space? it's just a mystery......

on top of that, you know what I really want? Cities. WHERE are the big Star Wars cities??? all we have is lonely scattered villages-- I want to see planetwide cities like Coruscant. I know Citybound is a thing but because this is a 2D game, it's really just a lush planet with a city background. I think it'd be cool to get like, a brochure that would put significant places in the universe into your SAIL that you can just go to, like the Outpost or the Science Outpost from FU.


Pretty much. The surprisingly thriving community owns the game now, modifying and adding to it due to the sheer moddability of the game. This is a great thing as it keeps the game afloat.

Bounty Hunting being canned deserves pitchforks. It could've gave extra opportunities to "discover" and give a good early-game method of earning pixels (because by late-game money doesn't matter anymore). As childish as the dialogue used in the teaser gifs were that code would've been a gold mine for modders.

On lore, it's interesting to think that every mod that ever added lore is in its own right, an "interactive fanfiction".

As for space politics it'd probably be the same as we have today. Republicans, Conservatives, Liberals, Nationalists, Socialists etc but more on a galactic scale. Superpowers may form but alot of star systems owned by a power would most likely be independent. Some independent powers might align themselves to a superpower as allegiance. I recommend looking into Elite Dangerous for a good example of Space Politics.

An intergalactic council would be... in my opinion only reserved for superpowers. Trying to include the thousands of independent non-aligned powers that would spawn from space colonization (i.e planned US.E lore is that Alpha Centauri Proxima B is a Fascist Police-State Megacity planet) wouldn't really be able to join a conference room discussing issues that most likely not be at all relevant to their territories.

Borders would most likely be defined by owned star systems. Any "lines" would be up to interpretation though, due to the extreme scale of space.

On the finality of cities, that's something that's more tedious than actually "hard". It can take hours to make a single parallax layer (bloated by an additional 3 hrs for making city lights, which I've been doing as I've been making my own "Lush City" for my mod update). Although I'll have to make an actual city background once I finish the 5th Campaign of Mars in US.E. Gotta work on Redya which'll be an absolute pain. It's pretty much just doing pixel-art and then doing the coding extra.

Cities don't have to render hundreds of npcs at once. By using static images and making them move in the background (2 lines of code) it can give off the illusion of being in a heavily populated area without needing hundreds of npcs at once on a single "planet". It could most likely be reduced to around 100 or 200 instead of 600 or so.




I mentioned US.E a few times because it's the only reference and "fanfiction" I have to help with explaining politics and other details.

Let's also ignore the fact that Starbound completely ignores how a society and economy actually works.
Last edited by Tengu_Civitas; May 3, 2018 @ 10:51pm
CaptainFistard May 4, 2018 @ 5:40am 
well that may be related to the fact that is game is dead and has been abandonned by the devs a long time ago
i`d hate to think that happended
Three games.
https://blog.chucklefish.org/introducing-eastward-by-pixpil/
At least, I'm pretty sure "partnering" is distinct from "publishing".

Personally I've been slowly scrapping and rewriting my own take on what Starbound lore, campaign story, and progression should be, in hopes of one day making a bigger mod out of it. It's quite liberating to simply deny the sillier aspects of the lore I dislike.
I'm sure many others are doing the same.
AnimatedJester May 4, 2018 @ 9:00am 
Is this the part where I quote the bottom of the Stretch goal post to make it understood that CF has failed to deliver what they promised regarding the Novakid? http://playstarbound.com/stretch-goal-1-the-novakids/

The Quote: "If we manage to hit $500,000 in pre-orders, this race will be added to the base game and will be playable upon release. They will also be fully integrated into the lore!"

So how have they been "integrated"? becasue a tidbit about their origin isn't really "fully integrated" from what I can tell.
GLaDOS38 Jul 28, 2019 @ 10:25am 
hey good news they added a update thats (almost) all about the novakids so FINALLY they get some respect
MysticMalevolence Jul 28, 2019 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by GLaDOS38:
hey good news they added a update thats (almost) all about the novakids so FINALLY they get some respect
I disagree. The bounty hunter update is just shy of about one single novakid, not the novakid as a whole.
They should add a longer story for every single race that you can play no matter what race you pick to play with.
Originally posted by Rider of Retarded Lion Prince:
They should add a longer story for every single race that you can play no matter what race you pick to play with.
I doubt that there will be another update for this game, but I am surprised there hasn't been a mod that tried to do that.
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Date Posted: Apr 23, 2018 @ 7:02pm
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