Kind of mad the Novakid is getting no love

[Mr. Buckaroo]

I love the Novakids, they are probably one of the best races in the game.

But they have been neglected by the devs.

Proof: They were in the game before the Story changed to it's now current format. They are not in the story
-They are not in the Protectorate intro
-They are not in the Artifact Retrieval Quest
-They are impossible to find

They have made little to no impact on anything of any relevance. They don't do anything but exist, the other races are involved, perhaps this note blends with the above, maybe it is a result of the above. Regardless they don't make much of an impact on any of the other races

They've been tacked on aimlessly as if to do nothing more than say "here have a new backless race"

I don't play multiplayer too often and as a result am not familiar with the popularity of the Novakid amongst other players. I do however get a strong vibe that the Novakids, they just don't matter, they have about as much relevance as a mod race and as a vanilla race that doesn't feel right at all.

TL;DR Novakid good, Novakid no getty enoughy, details above.

[ZappyDoggo]

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Also you'll have to pardon Starbound's dev team-- almost everyone who worked on the major parts of it has left. In fact, there were only two writers onboard. Literally everything was provided by the community, and while that doesn't excuse lack of updates and being absolutely out of touch with the community, I'd imagine that the dev team right now is really, really small, or they're working on Wargrove and Witchbrook.

When it comes to projects, it's often better to just learn from mistakes from your previous projects and move on to some newer ones, and that includes games. That's probably what Chucklefish did since Starbound was their first game ever. They're inexperienced, like what fatputtycat said.

I still strongly believe that they should offer jobs for people in the community who are still really passionate about the game, especially modders. And I know plenty of people who can really revamp the lore and make it more comprehensive/interesting. I mean that's what SEGA did to some random ROM hackers and lookie lookie Sonic Mania has a 9/10 on Steam and everyone is happy. so .............

Kinda stinks people are abandoning the project.

The idea of hiring amazing modders and people that put a lot into lore sounds fantastic to me, Hopefully they try it though.

[Figgleherp]

NoVaKiD SuCk

[ZappyDoggo]

Children. :/

[Skeleton crusader]

OOOOOF

[ZappyDoggo]

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OOOOOF

Personally dislike that roblox meme so much that I have to reply.
Please keep that meme off of Steam. ._.

[MozarteanChaos]

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lolman eredeti hozzászólása:

OOOOOF

Personally dislike that roblox meme so much that I have to reply.
Please keep that meme off of Steam. ._.

oof

[The Skaven]

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xephosarkeyus eredeti hozzászólása:

Personally dislike that roblox meme so much that I have to reply.
Please keep that meme off of Steam. ._.

oof

*sound of immense pain, causing the harmed individual to audibly cry out , in things such as ouch, ack, or OOF.*

[Figgleherp]

oof

[peaches♡]

someone: *has valid criticism for the way a company develops and delivers their product that has nothing to do with the modded community or the likeability of a fictional alien race*
you demons: aVA LIS AND NOVAKID S SUCK!!! WAAAAAHH!! I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE LIKE POPULAR THINGS!!!

I mean if it's any kind of incentive .... there's the original thread where the novakids were first pitched and some fanon lores swimming around the net... aheh;;

really if chucklefish doesn't do anything w/ novas we might as well make a Novakid unique story quest, that's what the Felin mod did

I mean. I personally don't like the implementation of the Protectorate. I think Chucklefish has really dumbed down the overall atmosphere of the game which is fine for ratings and all but they lost so much by doing that-- I feel like either the protectorate should be expanded or all races including Novakid should have the option of having their own racial quests but y'know ...

[ZappyDoggo]

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someone: *has valid criticism for the way a company develops and delivers their product that has nothing to do with the modded community or the likeability of a fictional alien race*
you demons: aVA LIS AND NOVAKID S SUCK!!! WAAAAAHH!! I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE LIKE POPULAR THINGS!!!

I mean if it's any kind of incentive .... there's the original thread where the novakids were first pitched and some fanon lores swimming around the net... aheh;;

really if chucklefish doesn't do anything w/ novas we might as well make a Novakid unique story quest, that's what the Felin mod did

I mean. I personally don't like the implementation of the Protectorate. I think Chucklefish has really dumbed down the overall atmosphere of the game which is fine for ratings and all but they lost so much by doing that-- I feel like either the protectorate should be expanded or all races including Novakid should have the option of having their own racial quests but y'know ...

I haven't exactly tinkered with the Felin mod yet. (I have the mod, mostly 'cause I play with 2 of my friends.)
Although, if adding a 'storyline' quest for a species is possible through mods, then Someone might as well work on that, Considering it might take a long while for Chucklefish to decide on releasing 1.4.

I felt Eh on most of the storyline quest though. Mostly because scanning for stuff in 20 different starts is a bunch of crap Takes too long and pulls out some of the fun.

The modding community is AMAZING though. If someone can put in their own Storyline quest, then someone could work on a species from scratch and make lore, an entire story, everything from there. Although, as far as I know, modding gets very buggy. I've seen a lot of mods, and there's always an incompatibility issue or 2, or maybe even just an unintended bug. . _. I've started over like 5 times on SB now due to constant switching of mods. But I got a good collection with lack of issues now.

Edit: Boss fights were fun at first, but now they feel lacking/short.

[Figgleherp]

I HATE the story, Mostly because it forces the character we play as into a certain role, while pushing away anyone that wants to play with their own morals, (or lack thereof) I dont have any issues with novakid as a species or anything, just hate when i see like 50% of the community using them, and ignoring every other race.

[peaches♡]

Figglecastle eredeti hozzászólása:

I HATE the story, Mostly because it forces the character we play as into a certain role, while pushing away anyone that wants to play with their own morals, (or lack thereof) I dont have any issues with novakid as a species or anything, just hate when i see like 50% of the community using them, and ignoring every other race.

I agree with you 100%... my character is a wanted outlaw who makes a living off robbing the rich and doing hanky panky for a buck-- why would he care about some goody two shoes boy scout organization

and while I'm a novakid stan myself, I feel like the reason people are drawn towards novas are for aesthetic. I mean... faceless, glowing, prettyboy star cowboys?? Sign me UP-- anyways rant ahead since we're all on the topic of roasting this game:

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someone: *has valid criticism for the way a company develops and delivers their product that has nothing to do with the modded community or the likeability of a fictional alien race*
you demons: aVA LIS AND NOVAKID S SUCK!!! WAAAAAHH!! I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE LIKE POPULAR THINGS!!!

I mean if it's any kind of incentive .... there's the original thread where the novakids were first pitched and some fanon lores swimming around the net... aheh;;

really if chucklefish doesn't do anything w/ novas we might as well make a Novakid unique story quest, that's what the Felin mod did

I mean. I personally don't like the implementation of the Protectorate. I think Chucklefish has really dumbed down the overall atmosphere of the game which is fine for ratings and all but they lost so much by doing that-- I feel like either the protectorate should be expanded or all races including Novakid should have the option of having their own racial quests but y'know ...

I haven't exactly tinkered with the Felin mod yet. (I have the mod, mostly 'cause I play with 2 of my friends.)
Although, if adding a 'storyline' quest for a species is possible through mods, then Someone might as well work on that, Considering it might take a long while for Chucklefish to decide on releasing 1.4.

I felt Eh on most of the storyline quest though. Mostly because scanning for stuff in 20 different starts is a bunch of crap Takes too long and pulls out some of the fun.

The modding community is AMAZING though. If someone can put in their own Storyline quest, then someone could work on a species from scratch and make lore, an entire story, everything from there. Although, as far as I know, modding gets very buggy. I've seen a lot of mods, and there's always an incompatibility issue or 2, or maybe even just an unintended bug. . _. I've started over like 5 times on SB now due to constant switching of mods. But I got a good collection with lack of issues now.

Edit: Boss fights were fun at first, but now they feel lacking/short.

If i remember correctly back in the beta, before they implemented the Protectorate, it used to be that your character had an implied backstory based off their race through a codex. Your Apex were refugees or war criminals of some kind, your Avian doubted the existence of Kluex, your Hylotl wanted to spread peace, your Glitch ran away for being self-aware, Humans were either explorers or USCM soldiers (can't remember which one), Florans stole the ship you were on, etc. etc., which honestly sounds way cooler than "oh we're all at peace and unity"! By no means am I a segragationalist and yea, this is fiction, but you can have peace and unity without getting rid of what made every race unique and what made this game really popular.

Racial storyline quests are absolutely possible. WarWolf and some others created the United Systems expansion solely because humans did not get the love they deserve. I'm currently playing through it on a human character because I really, really wanted the humans having some sort of justice that isn't being a base for anime girl mod edits. I really like their take on the Protectorate and the USCM, and how the Protectorate-humans used their social skills to get alien races on their side in order to achieve power over other humans they were at war with (I think that was their lore, can't remember).

You're right though, mods are a mixed bag. I have over 200 including FU, Gunrunners, and the United Systems Expansion. takes me about 5 minutes to boot the game on my potato system lmao and that doesn't count the amount of times the game crashes on startup. don't get me wrong, I love this game, it's cute, I love exploring and I love the music and characters. But if it weren't for the modders this game would've Died as soon as Chucklefish abandoned ship.

And I agree w/ you, the scanning quests are so. Boring. The NPC side quests are more fun than the actual main quests. If I'm forced to do these quests, can they at least be fun or different each time?

If i were to redo the scanning quests then I would probably make clues more difficult to find so that there would be a purpose in visiting multiple racial dungeons and villages rather than just going into a village and completing the scanning there. Maybe you'd have to play some kind of minigame or beat some kind of boss. But that goes back to exactly what you said about boss fights being underwhelming.
For me, a lot of it comes from overpowering the mission-- I got to Solarium tier armor and then went back and did all the quests in one sitting. The Ruin was such a cakewalk and this is before I nuked my game with a bajillion mods. So yeah, bosses are REALLY tacked on...

(talking about beta again lol) Bosses before were actually fun to fight. I remember having to drug my character up with stimpacks JUST to fight Dreadwing because Dreadwing was a ♥♥♥♥♥ to fight. I think it had to do with overtiering and how before, to summon Dreadwing, you were required to craft a signal in order to progress and the game did not tell you that you were gonna fight a boss. Kind of like how in Terraria, they don't tell you you're gonna fight a boss-- they just say "craft and use this item" and look it's the boss! And Terraria boss fights are fun as hell even though you're just clicking for 5 minutes. So to solve the boss problem ..... maybe do that, make them harder, or prevent players from overtiering.

But Heck, what do i know, i'm an artist not a programmer ;; I would do all of this but i know nothing about modding .... anyways when I get my Game Design degree I'm taking over SB, hiring a bunch of people from the workshop and writers, and re-implementing all these changes. I love this game and it deserves more love ok-- rant over.

[ZappyDoggo]

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(Had to snip to avoid spam, sorry.)

It would've been amazing if characters could have a backstory. I've never played the Beta, but if there was something better than the current intro-quest, I'd take it.

Also, the 'overtier prevention' is an excellent Idea. It might break a lot of mods if they try to impliment it, but it'd probably be worth it and atleast put some challenge in the game.

I agree that the game deserves a little more love. Part of me wishes I could put effort into it, too, But I know nothing when it comes to developing a game. /Part of me did want to get into the music side of things, though... Might take ages./

Hopefully things eventually start going in a good direction. Knowing that the dev group is back to being small now, It puts in a lot of doubt. At the very least, it's good to know they've tried to keep working on it.


(Also, just a side note, I personally really love your art. It's adorable and sometimes funny, and you're one of the best artists I'll probably ever see, even if I only met you through Steam. )

[Figgleherp]

The cool part about the beta story is isnt didnt HAVE an intro quest, i refused to play starbound for a year or so after 1.0 and only came back to it about a month or so ago and loaded it up with mods, thankfully im still having tons of fun like i used to but it god it was PAINFUL going through the intro, and i only did it for the outfits, sheesh

[peaches♡]

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look at all those typing

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