Dark Souls PVP Watchdog (ANTICHEATER)

[itx]

Updated to work with the Steam version of the game.

https://bitbucket.org/infausto/dark-souls-pvp-watchdog

"this tool can detect the most common forms of online cheating, such as fake soul level, modded stats, modded hp and a few hundreds of hacked equips / items / spells / whathaveyou, allowing you to kick the offending player out of your session. it can also prevent many dangerous effects being applied to you, such as curse, egg-head parasite infection, teleporting, and the likes."

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

europa님이 먼저 게시:

That's not how you make a suggestion though — your tone is making you come out as a jerk. There's an Issue Tracker, you can use that to add your suggestion and your motivations for that. Plus, I'd like you to note that removing the SL display (which you can still know by the amount of souls you get by killing your opponent) is far from "the thing needs a revamp".

You can tell after, not before you kill, say if someone invades me, sometimes you get invaded by someone underleveled you dont know this before you make visual contact, or even till you hit them once. With this mod you can tell the SL before you even see the guy....

Might as well use wallhacks man. SMH this ♥♥♥♥ is disgusting, i dont care how my point comes across. like i give a flying ♥♥♥♥.

Its cheating, end of, its not an opinon its a fact.

[europa]

Alrighty. I'm still waiting for your suggestion to come in the proper place. Which this is not.

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

europa님이 먼저 게시:

Alrighty. I'm still waiting for your suggestion to come in the proper place. Which this is not.

My point still stands.

[europa]

I guess if it's not worth your time, it's not worth mine : )

thanks for bumping up the thread though, since the mods seem to be long gone I heavily rely on users to periodically bring this up on page #0, and you're making a good job at that.

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

europa님이 먼저 게시:

I guess if it's not worth your time, it's not worth mine : )

thanks for bumping up the thread though, since the mods seem to be long gone I heavily rely on users to periodically bring this up on page #0, and you're making a good job at that.

like i care that i bumped the thread, uve seen my points, the watchdog tool is pretty much the equivlant of using wall hacks to spot aim bots.

The tool harms some aspects of the game when it doesnt need to, people are not privy to SL data if they are playing agianst legit players.

invaders are not privy to see everyone in the game in a list and SLs if everyone is legit

if you get invaded you are not privy to see if the person who invaded you might be underleveled. or what SL they are in the first place. if the person that invaded you is legit.

ECT ECT ECT

It is cheating, end of.

[Nahkuri]

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

ECT ECT ECT

It is cheating, end of.

Ec tetera?

That's not the end of. Please revise your arguing style, you're coming off as a 12yo stomping his feet in red faced anger because he didn't get his way, even if you do have something of a point.

Althogh I don't consider it 'cheating,' nor a big deal in general, I agree that SL shouldn't show, as it gives a bit too much information. It also takes away one of my preferred Dork Souls pastimes: baiting twinks. Around sales I loved to pick some of my NG+ SL100+ characters and just stand around Parish with a starting class set and drake sword and then oneshot the twinks with a hidden chaos zwei +5. Can't really do that if they know your SL. Chances are they'll just bugger off with the separation crystal.

But, regarding this.

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

lol its cheating, way cheating, think of all the possible senarios where ___knowing how many players are in the game___ and thier exact info is very advantagous.

Even if it allows you to flee or counter by knowing there is a "ganker" trap setup its still cheating even if what the other guys are doing isnt exactly "noble"

Don't blame PVP Watchdog for this. Players have always been able to see how many players they're up against in Dark Souls. GFWL and the consoles' dashboards(or whatever) show the players you've recently played with. When you invade a full ganksquad, you'll get 3 new names in that list. The only difference is that Watchdog doesn't require you to press a few buttons.

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

Nahkuri님이 먼저 게시:

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

ECT ECT ECT

It is cheating, end of.

Ec tetera?

That's not the end of. Please revise your arguing style, you're coming off as a 12yo stomping his feet in red faced anger because you didn't get your way, even if you do have something of a point.

Althogh I don't consider it 'cheating,' and not a big deal in general, I agree that SL shouldn't show, as it gives a bit too much information. It also takes away one of my preferred Dork Souls pastimes: baiting twinks. Around sales I loved to pick some of my NG+ SL100+ characters and just stand around Parish with a starting class set and drake sword and then oneshot the twinks with a hidden chaos zwei +5. Can't really do that if they know your SL. Chances are they'll just bugger off with the separation crystal.

But, regarding this.

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

lol its cheating, way cheating, think of all the possible senarios where [b}knowing how many players are in the game[/b] and thier exact info is very advantagous.

Even if it allows you to flee or counter by knowing there is a "ganker" trap setup its still cheating even if what the other guys are doing isnt exactly "noble"

Don't blame PVP Watchdog for this. Players have always been able to see how many players they're up against in Dark Souls. GFWL and the consoles' dashboards(or whatever) show the players you've recently played with. When you invade a full ganksquad, you'll get 3 new names in that list. The only difference is that Watchdog doesn't require you to press a few buttons.

to your second quote, even then it never showed thier exact soul levels, my main point ive been pushing in most of my posts in this thread still stands.

and it doesnt matter if you consider it cheating or not, its not something of opinion, it is infact cheating. You are not privy to SL data of legit players when you just invade or get invaded.

This may not be a big deal to you, but you gotta draw the line somewhere, otherwise you make the case for more cheating, one small step at a time.

It always amazes me how people get such vibrant images made up in thier head about "red faced anger" over something written in text.

Look i get the point of the mod, its a great purpose, ive said this a few times, but it does 1 thing that goes too far, and it crosses the line, it needs a fix.

It should only detect cheaters as it does now and have an onscreen prompt to kick em, but not show any SL info on legit players.

Otherwise its just a cheating mod that kicks out other cheaters that use bigger cheats....

[Princessochka]

Hey boys! Sooo... is it kicking hackers on steam now?
I mean after beta and that patch - does all guard functional works properly?

[NullBy7e]

S73v3 you must be a real ganker lmao, why the ♥♥♥♥ does it bother you.

[Nahkuri]

Princessochka님이 먼저 게시:

Hey boys! Sooo... is it kicking hackers on steam now?
I mean after beta and that patch - does all guard functional works properly?

You can kick cheaters, yeah.

NullBy7e님이 먼저 게시:

S73v3 you must be a real ganker lmao, why the ♥♥♥♥ does it bother you.

TL;DR, gives away information about other players you normally wouldn't be able to see. This leads to situations where people black crystal out when they see you're too high level for them, for instance.

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

NullBy7e님이 먼저 게시:

S73v3 you must be a real ganker lmao, why the ♥♥♥♥ does it bother you.

It blows my mind how many people are so taken away with the "anticheater" tool they cannot realize that seeing SL data of legit players upon joining a game or someone joining yours, (something you cant do without the tool) is in FACT (all caps on purpose) cheating.

The tool needs to change so that it will only prompt you if it detects a cheater and allow you to kick them, SL data it detects from legit players needs to be hidden and behind the scenes.

[NECROCANNIBAL]

I found infinite HP scrub 10 minutes ago but Watchdog detect nothing,so sad.
Still good program,but...

[Miles Bluefalls]

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

blah blah blah, worthless chaff

See, it's very simple. I've seen this pattern of behavior time and time again. More recently, for example, on the Payday 2 boards, regarding the mod HoxHud.

What's HoxHud? It does a lot of things, but most importantly, it provided a LOT of anti-cheat/anti-hack detection and kick tools to a game that was notoriously released with very little of either.

Sound familiar?

HoxHud would, for example, detect if someone was using skills or weapons that were well above their level/stat range, deploying things they shouldn't be able to given their level/build, blatant hacking, etc. It could then auto-kick people from your game the minute it sensed that junk.

Again, sound familiar? Of course, the difference here is that the makers of Payday 2 shook the modders' hands, asked if they could integrate a bunch of their anti-cheat stuff into the vanilla game, and it was good.

And then there was the raging. Oh yes, the raging on the forums. UNFAIR! UNFAIR! And it always came in 3 stages, tho not necessarily in the same order. "The anti-cheat is a cheat!", because trying to take the moral high ground. "People won't play with me because your mod let them see my build!", because somehow that's a game-breaker. And of course, "You're just as bad as the cheaters and hackers!", because using Insane Troll Logic, all you have to do is make some equivalency on the most minute level to throw the entire mod out the window.

But, you see, I left something out up there. Something that the HoxHud mod also does, that this mod really doesn't, something not done here because this board has a "no naming and shaming" policy. HoxHud would, when it detected blatant cheating, take the Steam ID of the offender, and the relevant data, and post it all up to the Payday 2 Stats web site, where we could keep track of all the baddies. And what shock of shocks! The vast, vast majority of those people raging against the mod on the forums were already caught cheating.

With their private profile, and their Steam level 0, most of the time.


So you see there's a pattern of behavior being exhibited here, and you've been profiled. Don't like it? I don't care.
Either you're a cheater who hates this mod because it ruins your funsies, and I don't care, or you've got legitimate gripes, in which case I still don't care. Why? Because you should be complainig to NamcoBandai to patch their crappy, broken port to deal with the problem themselves. The Watchdog mod only exists to solve a problem that NamcoBandai has made for us, and has been neglecting for years. If you don't like how it works? Then don't bother here, go bother Namco. If they fixed their junk, we wouldn't need a mod.

Oh, I also don't care because you've been a raging, raving so-and-so, and every legitimate point you've tried to make (if you're even serious about it) is drowned out in an ocean of BS.

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

Miles Bluefalls님이 먼저 게시:

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

blah blah blah, worthless chaff

See, it's very simple. I've seen this pattern of behavior time and time again. More recently, for example, on the Payday 2 boards, regarding the mod HoxHud.

What's HoxHud? It does a lot of things, but most importantly, it provided a LOT of anti-cheat/anti-hack detection and kick tools to a game that was notoriously released with very little of either.

Sound familiar?

HoxHud would, for example, detect if someone was using skills or weapons that were well above their level/stat range, deploying things they shouldn't be able to given their level/build, blatant hacking, etc. It could then auto-kick people from your game the minute it sensed that junk.

Again, sound familiar? Of course, the difference here is that the makers of Payday 2 shook the modders' hands, asked if they could integrate a bunch of their anti-cheat stuff into the vanilla game, and it was good.

And then there was the raging. Oh yes, the raging on the forums. UNFAIR! UNFAIR! And it always came in 3 stages, tho not necessarily in the same order. "The anti-cheat is a cheat!", because trying to take the moral high ground. "People won't play with me because your mod let them see my build!", because somehow that's a game-breaker. And of course, "You're just as bad as the cheaters and hackers!", because using Insane Troll Logic, all you have to do is make some equivalency on the most minute level to throw the entire mod out the window.

But, you see, I left something out up there. Something that the HoxHud mod also does, that this mod really doesn't, something not done here because this board has a "no naming and shaming" policy. HoxHud would, when it detected blatant cheating, take the Steam ID of the offender, and the relevant data, and post it all up to the Payday 2 Stats web site, where we could keep track of all the baddies. And what shock of shocks! The vast, vast majority of those people raging against the mod on the forums were already caught cheating.

With their private profile, and their Steam level 0, most of the time.


So you see there's a pattern of behavior being exhibited here, and you've been profiled. Don't like it? I don't care.
Either you're a cheater who hates this mod because it ruins your funsies, and I don't care, or you've got legitimate gripes, in which case I still don't care. Why? Because you should be complainig to NamcoBandai to patch their crappy, broken port to deal with the problem themselves. The Watchdog mod only exists to solve a problem that NamcoBandai has made for us, and has been neglecting for years. If you don't like how it works? Then don't bother here, go bother Namco. If they fixed their junk, we wouldn't need a mod.

Oh, I also don't care because you've been a raging, raving so-and-so, and every legitimate point you've tried to make (if you're even serious about it) is drowned out in an ocean of BS.

Thats cool and all but this has nothing to do with what am saying, Gauging your oppent in Darksouls is part of gameflow, when someone invades you arent privy to thier SL info off the bat if they are playing legit.

The same thing goes for if you invade, invaders are not priveledged to SL data of the host right off the bat, if they are legit

The tool goes 1 step too far. it needs to not show the user the SL info of legit players. Only prompt when it detects cheaters and let you deal with them.

Otherwise its just a cheat that kicks other cheaters out cause they are using bigger cheats.

[Miles Bluefalls]

S73v3님이 먼저 게시:

Thats cool and all but this has nothing to do with what am saying,

Oh yes, it does. Especially considering your previous comments.

Blocking you now, because I subscribed to this thread for news and troubleshooting re: this mod, not a constant stream of complaing from one person about something that's already been discussed about this mod more than once.