Will killing a Gravehound or River Krust void Cleanest Hands achievements in Brigmore Witches?

[Frank Castle]

They are pesky.They don't deserve to live

[newman]

Nope, you can kill them.

[MikePlaysIt]

ACTUALLY. If you kill the dogs, that will go against Clean Hands. But killing River Krusts doesn't. I guess they look at it more like the River Krusts aren't really a live, animal, so to speak.. But I have actually verified it for myself, and if you kill the Grave Hounds, once they are alive or come to life that is, it will count as a kill and prevent you from getting Cleanest Hands, and you can go ahead and kill River Krusts all you want. It doesn't effect anything..

Another side note, it doesn't effect anything to smash the Grave Hound skulls to prevent them from coming to life in the first place. As you're not killing anything, just, I guess, preventing a horrible ressurection of, hideousness.

[BlackWater]

River crusts, even more formidable than tall boys, least those you can knife from above. Clusters of krusts, once you get grenade aim and timing down, one throw end of problem.

[MikePlaysIt]

Originally posted by Deus Ex Panem:

Originally posted by Slingdong:

ACTUALLY. If you kill the dogs, that will go against Clean Hands.

Wrong. I killed every single gravehound and still got cleanest hands.

Well then the dogs in the DLC don't carry the same status as the dogs in the main storyline anymore, and something has changed. Because when I did my first attempted no kill run through, I absolutely did not kill anyone, anyone at all, except for the one dog that is patrolling near the painting room with the fallen rafters, and it showed that I had one kill.... Maybe they changed things. Or maybe the ONE person that I rendered unconscious rolled off the wide table and fell onto the floor, smashing their head...

Well, I do know that in the main game if you kill a dog that goes against you. But it's actually good to know that I can now kill the hell out of those abominations in Brigmore Witches. I hate them.

On another note, they really must have changed something. Because back from when the game was released, up until about 3-4 months ago, rats would not touch weeper corpses or unconscious weepers. Because they were sick. Same reason that Devouring Swarm wouldn't work on weepers. I think Devouring Swarm still doesn't work on weepers, but I've been suddenly seeing unconcscious weepers and weeper corpses getting devoured by rats lately. Though it's worth nothing that most of the time they don't completely devour the corpse, only, eh, about half way to where they hands and feet are missing and muscle tissue is exposed. So they must have added a patch or a change to the game or something. Maybe the whole being able to kill those, abominations, was included with that.

[cornelius frederick vanderbilt]

MikePlaysIt, you're wrong again. Killing wolfhouds or riverkrusts or even gravehounds does not void any of the clean hands achievments. :)

[cyberwiz97]

Originally posted by homr:

MikePlaysIt, you're wrong again. Killing wolfhouds or riverkrusts or even gravehounds does not void any of the clean hands achievments. :)

This is absolutely correct. Wolfhound and Gravehounds do NOT count against you as a kill. The ONLY entities that count as a kill are human life forms e.g. City Watch, Overseers, weepers, survivors, thugs etc. Hounds can however, see you and cause a detection.

[MikePlaysIt]

That's interesting. Well damn I guess I can start killing the annoying ass hounds already. Sleep darts are too good for those annoying suckers in the kennels there. They must have changed something with an update with this too. Because I've been noticing a couple things being different during the last rounds of the game I made. Thanks for correcting me.