It's a little disappoint about destroying the holy site.

[R.T.]

as the nordic pagan at 769, after 150 years hardworking.
to call 200k event troops to defeat jerusalem, rom and constantinpol.
and then, burn all the things in that area.
it JUST give me 5 prestige for every melted building.
wtf, I think there should be more interesting reward to destroy a holy site.
hey, it's a holy site, dude, it's a HoLy sItE.
after I build a tribal instead of the original city or castle, that tribal become new holy site of religion.
will the funny chrisitian visit a pagan tribal to show their faithful?
lol

[Preacher]

That's what you get for sacking Jerusalem. Deus vult!

[Kagemin]

You destroyed the building there, but the place itself is still a holy site.
It's not the churches or cathedrals (or their equivalents in other religions) that make a holy site "holy", but what they stand for. And that will stay even if the building is gone.

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by Kagemin:

You destroyed the building there, but the place itself is still a holy site.
It's not the churches or cathedrals (or their equivalents in other religions) that make a holy site "holy", but what they stand for. And that will stay even if the building is gone.

Debatable. Why is Rome a holy place for Christians if not for the tomb of St. Peter? Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

[Random]

my sky fairy is better than your sky fairy. Deus Vult!

[sudokek]

It's not the same as the pagan holy site when West Francia ends up sacking it. They get much larger bonuses for that, but I do agree holy sites like Roma and Jeurusalem should be major. Same with like, mecca too.

[Preacher]

Originally posted by Random:

my sky fairy is better than your sky fairy. Deus Vult!

Ah, another intellectual.

[R.T.]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Originally posted by Kagemin:

You destroyed the building there, but the place itself is still a holy site.
It's not the churches or cathedrals (or their equivalents in other religions) that make a holy site "holy", but what they stand for. And that will stay even if the building is gone.

Debatable. Why is Rome a holy place for Christians if not for the tomb of St. Peter? Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

Hey bro, that's the question of this thread. Thank you mentioned that.
In the future, may the P studio could add dynamic holy site feature instead the system right now.
They can change the de ju kingdom/empire after 100 years conquered, I think they can also change ppl's mind thinking about hOlY sItE.
However ppl can always find something old enough to parry.
und Desu Valt.

[Alien]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Originally posted by Kagemin:

You destroyed the building there, but the place itself is still a holy site.
It's not the churches or cathedrals (or their equivalents in other religions) that make a holy site "holy", but what they stand for. And that will stay even if the building is gone.

Debatable. Why is Rome a holy place for Christians if not for the tomb of St. Peter? Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

Rome and Mecca would still be the place where some holys stuff happen, just like how Jerusalem was still a holy place for the jewish after the destruction of the holy temple. Those religions aren't iconodulist, you know.

[Seventh]

Originally posted by Random:

my sky fairy is better than your sky fairy. Deus Vult!

>Acting like a Fedora tipper when religion is mentioned in the forum of a game whos major plotpoints are about relgion

So how was 7th grade today?

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by AlienSpectator:

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Debatable. Why is Rome a holy place for Christians if not for the tomb of St. Peter? Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

Rome and Mecca would still be the place where some holys stuff happen, just like how Jerusalem was still a holy place for the jewish after the destruction of the holy temple. Those religions aren't iconodulist, you know.

Hm, that's what they claim. Yet, every year people visit a symbolic birthplace at the Church of the Nativity or run circles around a meteorite. Christians visit pilgrimage sites and pray to saints.
Places and objects have a vastly more important impact than concepts. Read up on the Jerusalem syndrome.

[Donathan Cheadledge]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Originally posted by Kagemin:

You destroyed the building there, but the place itself is still a holy site.
It's not the churches or cathedrals (or their equivalents in other religions) that make a holy site "holy", but what they stand for. And that will stay even if the building is gone.

Debatable. Why is Rome a holy place for Christians if not for the tomb of St. Peter? Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

At this point in time, while it's the objects that gave places importance, it's so ingrained that the places themselves are holy that they'd probably retain that image for some time even if everything of importance was burned down. Not sure if that'd apply in the 900s or not tho tbh

[Sandvich]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

The Kaaba was destroyed and rebuilt many times. It never stopped being a holy site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba#After_Muhammad

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by Sandvich:

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Why is Mecca so important for Islam if not for the Kaaba?

The Kaaba was destroyed and rebuilt many times. It never stopped being a holy site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba#After_Muhammad

Which is clearly more proof that the item itself is the important part and not the concept behind it.

[Sandvich]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Originally posted by Sandvich:

The Kaaba was destroyed and rebuilt many times. It never stopped being a holy site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba#After_Muhammad

Which is clearly more proof that the item itself is the important part and not the history behind it.

How? If the Kaaba was destroyed, it didn't stop becoming a holy site. People didn't abandon it. The place itself is the holy part.

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by Sandvich:

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Which is clearly more proof that the item itself is the important part and not the history behind it.

How? If the Kaaba was destroyed, it didn't stop becoming a holy site. People didn't abandon it. The place itself is the holy part.

I think I strayed from the original topic, I apologize. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of forbidding depictions of god or, at least, worship of them and instead creating these various surrogates that constitute "holy" sites to worship instead. A religion based purely on belief is impossible for the masses.
Going back to the original topic, I guess I can agree that holy sites were abandoned/destroyed only after a religion has died out in a region, not the other way around.