"Beware the Mongol Hordes"

[EmotionallyBroken]

I find this tip funny because Im always on the other side of the map, or if I'm closer enough for it to matter, its because I have so much land they dont even pose a threat.
EDIT: I CAN SPELL!

[kazaddum]

Stop playing easy mode and blobb and they are very much a thing to beware of.

[valley29]

I am in India/Tibet and they scare the hell out off me.

[ale.bianco]

Well, I'm a very bad strategist, but when I was the Roman Empire and conquered all europe and africa, I still lost against the Mongols. Maybe that was because they attacked me on mountains in Persia, maybe because I don't look too much on tactics/modifiers, maybe because I didn't want to lose all my army by attrition. But I lost

[Merkatz]

Originally posted by valley29:

I am in India/Tibet and they scare the hell out off me.

They're only scary there if you're not the Samrat Chakravartin of a unified India. It's a massive freaken empire. Like, totally op.

After I did that, I was looking at the amount of levies I could raise and realized I could steamroll anyone and everyone.

I am just glad that I have never seen the AI do it.

[Bo]

Managed to unite the Roman Empire while my eastern vassals conquered eastwards. Suddenly the Mongols arrived. I scrambled my forces (all in all about 120k) and went to face them. Attrition managed to lower my army with about 10k. Got into a fight, lost, they conquered some empy lands that I didn't care about and suddenly they had won. My whole empire got conquered due to one lost fight and some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ land being occupied. I was a bit pissed afterwards.

[EmotionallyBroken]

Originally posted by kazaddum:

Stop playing easy mode and blobb and they are very much a thing to beware of.

So.... dont conquer land? Whats the point then?

Originally posted by ale.bianco:

Well, I'm a very bad strategist, but when I was the Roman Empire and conquered all europe and africa, I still lost against the Mongols. Maybe that was because they attacked me on mountains in Persia, maybe because I don't look too much on tactics/modifiers, maybe because I didn't want to lose all my army by attrition. But I lost

Save up loads of merc money when you expect them to come, break them into smaller groups, concentrate YOUR forces to get local advantages, whittle down their hordes. (Of course you dont want to be dying to attrition from too many men in one province so have them walk nearby each other similar to napoleons "fying colums" idea. Pile up your opinion vassal levy bonuses, laws, ect. Martial gives you more troops (Im not sure if it effects vassal troop counts) maybe thats not worth considering. and of course retinues.

Longbows , in mass, can kill off a horde before they even even touch you : )
Cymru Am Byth!

[Sel Und Irae]

Try playing the game from 760 -> 1400 you'll see the mongol horde invade western europe enmasse within that timeframe
its actually really scary

[barracuda-rostigraben]

Originally posted by DemonKingTeemo:

Try playing the game from 760 -> 1400 you'll see the mongol horde invade western europe enmasse within that timeframe
its actually really scary:evilenki:

Either they take over all the things or peter out before they cross the Ural Mountains. Haven't witnessed a middle ground.

[Khorps]

Originally posted by barracuda-rostigraben:

Originally posted by DemonKingTeemo:

Try playing the game from 760 -> 1400 you'll see the mongol horde invade western europe enmasse within that timeframe
its actually really scary:evilenki:

Either they take over all the things or peter out before they cross the Ural Mountains. Haven't witnessed a middle ground.

in one game they made it to russia and india, but they couldn't take much of persia, tibet or khorasan

[Fritz Bittenfeld]

Originally posted by Trump the God Emperor:

Managed to unite the Roman Empire while my eastern vassals conquered eastwards. Suddenly the Mongols arrived. I scrambled my forces (all in all about 120k) and went to face them. Attrition managed to lower my army with about 10k. Got into a fight, lost, they conquered some empy lands that I didn't care about and suddenly they had won. My whole empire got conquered due to one lost fight and some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ land being occupied. I was a bit pissed afterwards.

So I'm not the onlyone who has wars end randomly after one lost skirmish when I have my full force arriving in the rear?

[EmotionallyBroken]

Originally posted by barracuda-rostigraben:

Either they take over all the things or peter out before they cross the Ural Mountains. Haven't witnessed a middle ground.

That even on the map? Thats further east isnt it? Are you thinking of the ones bordering hungary? (Not sure what those ones are called) bonus points to anyone who does.

Originally posted by Lindul Al-Beigia, British Emir:

Originally posted by Trump the God Emperor:

Managed to unite the Roman Empire while my eastern vassals conquered eastwards. Suddenly the Mongols arrived. I scrambled my forces (all in all about 120k) and went to face them. Attrition managed to lower my army with about 10k. Got into a fight, lost, they conquered some empy lands that I didn't care about and suddenly they had won. My whole empire got conquered due to one lost fight and some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ land being occupied. I was a bit pissed afterwards.

So I'm not the onlyone who has wars end randomly after one lost skirmish when I have my full force arriving in the rear?

I think its becuase the hordes are so large the battle scores tip a lot from one battle.

[barracuda-rostigraben]

Originally posted by 250RoundMags:

That even on the map? Thats further east isnt it? Are you thinking of the ones bordering hungary? (Not sure what those ones are called) bonus points to anyone who does.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1371520824

That bit of mountain range separating the Mongols and Araslan is where I'm talking about, so yeah a fair bit further east.

[EmotionallyBroken]

Apparantly those are called the carpathians.... Apparantly I confused them with the capadocians in asia minor