How the hell do you even play this?

[BalkanBiker]

There's literally no tutorial or info how to extract lol.
I made a cleric, was thrown in some tavern with a few other players, then we went to the dungeon, I was soloing but died because I ran out of healing after bashing about 10 mobs.
No info on how to extract.

Then when spectating I saw two players were playing together. I thought this is a game where when you encounter other players you have to fight them?

[Rada]

It's one of dem "I'm not gonna hold your hand" games. You can google how to extract or you can figure it out yourself while playing.
As for meeting other players... you can do whatever you want. Fight them, try to ally with them (but they might stab you in the back) etc etc. That's the beauty of it, there are no hard rules.

[Solo Pk'er]

you can queue solo duo or trios and start when your choice map is selected.
gob caves - look for ropes leading up or stairs that havent caved in
crypts - blu lit floor cracks that raise to activate or blue lit stairs with soon to open gates
ice - not sure, maybe rafts in the water or a landing platform with a soon to ascend shaft elevator (has one in gob caves too)

you clear one or two rooms hoping to find one to easily cricle back to, or venture till you find an exit, the game was made with trios in mind so spawn and pacing is somewhat tilted to groups

[Deathfromace]

Originally posted by Solo Pk'er:

you can queue solo duo or trios and start when your choice map is selected.
gob caves - look for ropes leading up or stairs that havent caved in
crypts - blu lit floor cracks that raise to activate or blue lit stairs with soon to open gates
ice - not sure, maybe rafts in the water or a landing platform with a soon to ascend shaft elevator (has one in gob caves too)

you clear one or two rooms hoping to find one to easily cricle back to, or venture till you find an exit, the game was made with trios in mind so spawn and pacing is somewhat tilted to groups

For ice...I accidentally found it. Not sure if there is a good or bad time but in the middle fall into the void and you will go to the next level.

The game does need a tutorial or something to read. I've heard it used to.

What to look for on the maps and such is not fun while learning the basics as it's information that a player should have. Less people would bounce off and you SHOULDNT need to read guides or anything outside the game to learn a game.

[Handbanana]

Tons of new youtube tutorials popping up right now as well. But yea its a learn as you go game until you give up and google it.

[Herbspiceguy]

Gen Z lazy ♥♥♥♥♥ can't even be bothered to look things up.

OP, watch these vids from beginning to end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC0YryNvw3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsQzKe1kb4

[Hadley333]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

Gen Z lazy ♥♥♥♥♥ can't even be bothered to look things up.

OP, watch these vids from beginning to end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC0YryNvw3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsQzKe1kb4

Thanks for sharing. Everything I found was over a year old and did not apply when it comes to escaping.

[Tman]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

Gen Z lazy ♥♥♥♥♥ can't even be bothered to look things up.

OP, watch these vids from beginning to end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC0YryNvw3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsQzKe1kb4

They REALLY helped. 100% advise all nubs to watch!

[BrusLee]

Most of the old players or "Hc players" know the games that teach you nothing...
Compare same system 20+years ago vs now.. you have youtube, guides, STEAM discussion for polite questions... back then you learned by trial or pain.

[ZHIMOHOTO]

Originally posted by BalkanBiker:

There's literally no tutorial or info how to extract lol.
I made a cleric, was thrown in some tavern with a few other players, then we went to the dungeon, I was soloing but died because I ran out of healing after bashing about 10 mobs.
No info on how to extract.

Then when spectating I saw two players were playing together. I thought this is a game where when you encounter other players you have to fight them?

you went to duo dungeon not solo the map will keep rotating to solo duo and trio and yeah i had hard time playing at first because of heal if you press G you will rest and heal slowly i recommend bringing heals every game but if you dont wana buy heal i recommend using archer class thats what i use cause you kill mobs before they even reach you ive have been having fun im lvl 40 now

[Tman]

Originally posted by ZHIMOHOTO:

Originally posted by BalkanBiker:

There's literally no tutorial or info how to extract lol.
I made a cleric, was thrown in some tavern with a few other players, then we went to the dungeon, I was soloing but died because I ran out of healing after bashing about 10 mobs.
No info on how to extract.

Then when spectating I saw two players were playing together. I thought this is a game where when you encounter other players you have to fight them?

you went to duo dungeon not solo the map will keep rotating to solo duo and trio and yeah i had hard time playing at first because of heal if you press G you will rest and heal slowly i recommend bringing heals every game but if you dont wana buy heal i recommend using archer class thats what i use cause you kill mobs before they even reach you ive have been having fun im lvl 40 now

The vid I saw on YT showed me that if you go to the Squire and alter the starting equipment you get some free potions which helped alot

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Rada:

It's one of dem "I'm not gonna hold your hand" games. You can google how to extract or you can figure it out yourself while playing.
As for meeting other players... you can do whatever you want. Fight them, try to ally with them (but they might stab you in the back) etc etc. That's the beauty of it, there are no hard rules.

It's not that they "don't hold your hand", it's that it has no consistent rules and there is absolutely no way to find out any kind of information that you need to know and should be able to find.

There's literally heaps of treasure just laying around, but you die in one hit no matter what you're wearing, no matter what level you are - nothing matters, you just die so you may as well just not engage. There is no reward for engaging with the dangers or obstacles - none whatsoever. Which wouldn't be a problem... if those obstacles and dangers could be avoided or mitigated somehow through your choices. Instead, your choices don't matter, and it's just a random coin flip to determine whether you have to wait through a five minute lobby after you see something moving.

Being punished for interacting with a game is not fun.

It's not "soulslike" or whatever excuse is popular these days.

It's just not a fun game.

And that's before we talk about the borderline-illegal money grab and microtransactions. It's just a fly-by-night crew pretending they're making a video game in order to gaslight rubes with "difficulty" red-herrings all designed to get gullible whales to spend money.

[Herbspiceguy]

It's definitely Soulslike in the sense that the combat is methodical and you need to learn the attack patterns and be able to perfectly block, parry or dodge attacks. You must git gud, to succeed in this game, very similar to Soulslikes.

[REEEman]

Originally posted by BalkanBiker:

There's literally no tutorial or info how to extract lol.
I made a cleric, was thrown in some tavern with a few other players, then we went to the dungeon, I was soloing but died because I ran out of healing after bashing about 10 mobs.
No info on how to extract.

Then when spectating I saw two players were playing together. I thought this is a game where when you encounter other players you have to fight them?

If you only had access to the Internet.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

It's definitely Soulslike in the sense that the combat is methodical and you need to learn the attack patterns and be able to perfectly block, parry or dodge attacks. You must git gud, to succeed in this game, very similar to Soulslikes.

No. That just is not true.

You can't just react with any and all criticism of the game with "well but it's supposed to be hard and you have to git gud!"

The gameplay is clumsy, unresponsive, and unrewarding even if you execute perfectly.

On top of amazingly bad underlying design problems like spawning you underneath a frost giant that kills you in two hits before you even have a chance to raise your weapon because you just spawned into the sessions. Back to spending fifteen minutes waiting for a lobby to fill! Only to spend ten seconds in the next map dying because you spawned in the middle of eight goblins and their three archers instantly headshot you simultaneously before you could raise your weapon or move... because you just spawned.

All your items, all your everything, gone - you just lost everything.

Why? Because git gud?

There has to be an answer to "why should I waste time playing this game". And if the answer is "git gud", your game deserves its ignominious death.

People want to have fun.

Exploiting addicts and emotionally unstable losers to extract money from a cycle of abuse is so profoundly toxic.

[Deathfromace]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

Gen Z lazy ♥♥♥♥♥ can't even be bothered to look things up.

OP, watch these vids from beginning to end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC0YryNvw3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsQzKe1kb4

Or, get this, they can ask on the forums for the game they are playing. You could just not reply and move on.