Why are UK and Scottish troops 2 different nations?

[Lones]

Seems an odd thing to do to separate Scotland from the UK in this game, just an oversight or is X-Com making a political statement? :P

[Bindal]

I would call it an oversight. Many people think that "United Kingdom" and "England" are the same thing while in fact, they are not. The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales (which are together "Great Britain") and Northern Ireland. Four different countries.

However, you could simply say that it means either you guy is from the UK but not Scotland - or he is from Scotland directly. Or you just ask them to replace the flag of the UK with the Flag of England...

[Jigsaw]

Well they got there own flags, so why not ;)

[gudnaimsartaekn]

Alex Salmond is actually a Sectoid Commander, and has had the Firaxis team under his spell for the last 3 years. True story.

[Seyaku-Brad]

Yeah right? I remeber in Afghanistan, the Scots, Welsh, and Brits were all in the same uniform but had different patches and covers

[Mach2k5]

Originally posted by Seyaku-Brad:

Yeah right? I remeber in Afghanistan, the Scots, Welsh, and Brits were all in the same uniform but had different patches and covers

Brits? Don't you mean English? Because British is the culmination of England Northern Ireland Scotland and Wales..(for the time being!)

[That Drunk Fellow]

Cause scottish people have such epic accents they needed their own representation?

EDIT: Ofcourse we don't get to hear the epic accents, but none the less! I stand by my statement.

[Badegakk]

Maybe because there will be a real-life vote on Scottish independence in 2014, and the game is set in 2015? So the game assumes that Scotland will be an independent nation at that point.

[Shitbird]

This is either a just a mistake based on lack of research, or artistic/political license of the a designer.

For example, you would not describe a US Marines base in Texas as "Texas Marines"... they are US Marines.

But as Lones rightly points out, its odd. That said, its not uncommon for people to mistakenly think England describes the whole of the uk, or to think that for example Wales is a separate country. I guess the phrase "United Kingdom" is a big hint at the real relationship. And despite the impression you might get from certain elements in the press, we are very much united.

This massive mistake aside, I think the Nationality aspect of the game is one of the few things that they did well. It seemed that pretty much any country could turn up in your roster, as if all the armed forces of the world united to respond to the threat. I kept finding myself looking up the national flags on wikipedia and found the whole the exercise very interesting.

[Shitbird]

Originally posted by The British Muffin:

we don't get to hear the epic accents, but none the less! I stand by my statement.

I have to say the choice of 7 very similar American accents was shameful tbh.

I would not care if they had sampled peoples voices in the street randomly, but hell I wanted more, and more DIVERSE accents to choose from. I would not care if it was done well or badly, but oh god I just wanted more choice in accent than 7 different shades of East Coast American.

[Fishmonger]

because the scottish are not UK, just as Canada is not, or ireland.

[TheAngryPuffin]

Originally posted by Coxy:

Originally posted by Seyaku-Brad:

Yeah right? I remeber in Afghanistan, the Scots, Welsh, and Brits were all in the same uniform but had different patches and covers

Brits? Don't you mean English? Because British is the culmination of England Northern Ireland Scotland and Wales..(for the time being!)

Read the front of the passport, it's GB & NI, only UK incorporates all four. Not being an arse, but annoys many Northern Irish people (myself included) being referred to as British. We could debate many historical reasons for such a need to distinguish, my major problem being that most stores on the mainland always pile on the postage when you order something with free postage even though we have Royal Mail lol!

@Seyaku-Brad Please don't forget the Royal Irish Regiment, they sound like Scottish people on amphetamines, but represent Ireland/Northern Ireland in the British Army (weird but people from the North and the Republic can both be in the British army).

[Shitbird]

Well last time I checked the individual parts of the UK flew under the flag of the United Kingdom. If anyone wants to get into some nationalist debate that deviates from actual facts good luck with that.. I wont be taking part.

[That Drunk Fellow]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

I have to say the choice of 7 very similar American accents was shameful tbh.

I would not care if they had sampled peoples voices in the street randomly, but hell I wanted more, and more DIVERSE accents to choose from. I would not care if it was done well or badly, but oh god I just wanted more choice in accent than 7 different shades of East Coast American.

Oh I completely agree, if there had been Scottish and Irish accents my entire team had been using those to be honest.

[Shitbird]

Originally posted by The British Muffin:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

I have to say the choice of 7 very similar American accents was shameful tbh.

I would not care if they had sampled peoples voices in the street randomly, but hell I wanted more, and more DIVERSE accents to choose from. I would not care if it was done well or badly, but oh god I just wanted more choice in accent than 7 different shades of East Coast American.

Oh I completely agree, if there had been Scottish and Irish accents my entire team had been using those to be honest.

Some of my squad was named after gamers Ive rolled with for years... Scotland, Sweden, England, Finland, Denmark.... but apparently they all speak "Mericaan".... oversight imo lol

[TheAngryPuffin]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Well last time I checked the individual parts of the UK flew under the flag of the United Kingdom. If anyone wants to get into some nationalist debate that deviates from actual facts good luck with that.. I wont be taking part.

Maybe if you actually read my post it was regarding the confusion between people using British and UK as the same thing... but go on, have your little moment lol