Floaters are Mutons?

[Kelloggs]

I realize this is a common theory supported by a lot of people in community, but I don't think this is true.

The only argument in favor of this that I know of is:

1) The Floater's head look like a Muton's head.



But I have a few counter arguments:

1) The autopsy / interrogation do not mention anything of the sort. (Or do they?)
2) Blood Call (which supposely boosts every Muton in range) does not affect floaters
3) The "original floaters" from the XCOM UFO Defense looked nothing like the Mutons.




Are there more arguments in favor of this theory that dictates floaters are Mutons?

[Nostil]

The blood call woulden't because the minds have been modified to inerface with the jetpack.

[red255]

The Muton Elite Autopsy states all mutons look alike the only difference is the armor.

Blood call is BLOOD call and Mutons are mostly machine now without the...blood per say

[Nerevars Goat Univeron]

The Flyers also dont have Mouths.
My personal reasons would be:
Same flesh color
Same mucly body (whats left of it)
Same unit progression (The only two units with special "Elite" varients. Both elites wear red)
Same armor style (Its subtle, but there)
The look like weaker Mutons, which if the majority of Mutons where closer to the soldiers in strength, then obviously the weakers would be outcasts in a strength-dominated world. Maybe the machines help with that?

[JurassicUtility]

I didn't believe it at first either, but the autopsy report for the Muton mentions that Floaters and Mutons have the same genetic structure.

http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Muton_Autopsy

The Floaters from X-COM: UFO Defense were indeed a separate species IIRC.

[Nerevars Goat Univeron]

Techinically speaking, everything from before EU is irrelivant. Snake men did exist before the reboot, does that mean they MUST exist in EU? What about thinmen in UFO? So why do Floaters need to be the "same" floaters as before, when they can completly remove races without question?

[JurassicUtility]

Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:

Techinically speaking, everything from before EU is irrelivant. Snake men did exist before the reboot, does that mean they MUST exist in EU? What about thinmen in UFO? So why do Floaters need to be the "same" floaters as before, when they can completly remove races without question?

Did I ever say Floaters had to be the same in Enemy Unknown (2012)? New game's lore says Floaters are Mutons. Original game's lore says they aren't. I was just noting the difference because the OP brought it up.

[Nerevars Goat Univeron]

You misunderstand. My reply was not directed at you, your post mearly reminded me.
It was in response to "3) The "original floaters" from the XCOM UFO Defense looked nothing like the Mutons.", much like yours was.
I apologize for the misunderstanding, if that helps

[Merlyn]

The autopsy said

During the autopsy, we also noted a variety of ritualistic markings and unusual tattoos, which imply some sort of past tribal structure among the Muton species. We've also noticed a number of distinct similarities between the genetic structure of the Muton and Floater specimens. Although I can only guess as to the alien's intentions, it certainly appears that the Floaters may have at one time been Mutons themselves. If the aliens have been experimenting with the Muton physiology, perhaps the Floaters are a byproduct of their less successful attempts at genetic manipulation.

[Animal]

Floaters, what a horrible name. They dont even float. They hover and zip around. Hoverers or Zippers, or Angry Half Muton Jetpackers.

We all know what "floaters" are, and it isnt butchered mutons strapt to jetpacks, which is what XCOM Floaters are.

This thead is a floater.

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[きつね]

Floater is the kinda name a grunt would come up with for an enemy for quick ID , And given in this universe the aliens can modify on the base genetic level , the floaters could just be mutons that have ether still borned or just a failed branch line , maybe the remains of dead mutons on the field , given the aliens have no compulsion over this sort of work it is possible ( also an important reason to encourge the humanities at university )

[Nebhead]

Originally posted by ciryon:

The autopsy said

During the autopsy, we also noted a variety of ritualistic markings and unusual tattoos, which imply some sort of past tribal structure among the Muton species. We've also noticed a number of distinct similarities between the genetic structure of the Muton and Floater specimens. Although I can only guess as to the alien's intentions, it certainly appears that the Floaters may have at one time been Mutons themselves. If the aliens have been experimenting with the Muton physiology, perhaps the Floaters are a byproduct of their less successful attempts at genetic manipulation.

That's the Muton Autopsy, which makes sense when combined with one of the lines spoken by the Uber Ethereal, when it speaks about the Floaters:

“The new one faces a great foe, and an equally great… disappointment. When their organic form failed to evolve… it was given the strength of a machine, creating this… merciless, fearless, killer… A fate worse than death.”

Given the notes by Vahlen in the Muton Autopsy regarding the Floater / Muton connection, it is very possible that some Mutons, who "failed to evolve" were turned into these Floaters.

[Kelloggs]

Oh! I see...

So they do mention in-game that floaters are mutons afterall. I forgot about the Muton Autopsy.

Thanks for the heads up everyone.