[ENEMY WITHIN SPOILER] Base defense bug? [SOLVED - not a bug]

[Abaddon]

I just got this mission, and all of a sudden all my soldiers are unequipped.

Yes, the ones in the barracks were not equipped (I didn't know about this thing), but 2 of the first deployments were my main team, including my maxed out sniper with 115+ will, 5 gene mods, titan armor, plasma sniper+pistol, scope and chitin armor which all of a sudden has the default gear.

Is this intended or is it a bug? If it's intended I have to say that this mission TOTALLY sucks. How am I supposed to stop 2 mechtoids, 2 sectoids and 3 spider-crabs with default weapons with only 5 or 6 soldiers with default gear?

[Graye]

I've never seen mine get stripped down.

[Zer0]

İlk olarak Abaddon tarafından gönderildi:

Is this intended or is it a bug? If it's intended I have to say that this mission TOTALLY sucks. How am I supposed to stop 2 mechtoids, 2 sectoids and 3 spider-crabs with default weapons with only 5 or 6 soldiers with default gear?

Not sure in your case. I was caught off guard with this mission as well as my top guys were all in the infirmary and I hadn't fully equipped the rest of the squad (I had one fully equipped MEC though). I managed to complete it with the only deaths being the base security personnel.

[Nostil]

if they were recently ingured that would happen, otherwise that should not be happening. but it should not be too bad.

[Abaddon]

i had just finished a mission and was skipping days to get the beacon and psy labs up and ready when I got this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I could still manage to kill one mechtoid and suppress the other, but only because both of my snipers have superjump, snap shot and in the zone and they got like 3 kills each... no chance otherwise.

[Abaddon]

1. Only the MEC dude was harmed last mission and maybe a support, and they are not yet with me, only 2 of my snipers and both were geared up.

2. It is hard, because I'm hitting for 3-5 damage when i should be hitting for 10-13

[Abaddon]

Also it was a perfect C/I run, all countries covered on 1 panic, perfect building placement, all tech and almost all foundry projects finished, 1 fully powered gene'd sniper, like 12 colonels in storage, exalt defeated...

This would be pretty much fixed if they gave at least the stored gear to the first soldiers because it doesn't make any sense that they go around in pants shooting at high-level tech aliens

[Graye]

It can come that late in the game? I've never managed to get all of that done prior to the base assault... *shrug*

[happy]

it s a surprise attack, so you are caught off guard, it s scripted that way
soldiers come with default weapons because you tend to swap your best gear and assign it to guys on missions
your elite does not sleep with titan armor, only people equiped with armor at the time of the attack wear that armor

as for the infirmary, wounded soldiers do no participate nor do soldier being tested for psy

sorry, but you should just understand that you should own more than one set of cool armors, more than one set of uber guns, you re supposed to lead a team of soldiers, not a sharing boy scouts group

also, even with default stuff, how could you ever be complaining to only face "2 mechtoids, 2 sectoids and 3 spider-crabs(and i assume smaller guys)" when you have "maxed out sniper with 115+ will, 5 gene mods, titan armor, plasma sniper+pistol, scope and chitin armor(even without gear) "-this shows you ve got lots of experience, lots of research done, so in no way it is unfair
you are so lucky to face only the few big dudes you complain about

sorry to say that but you suck at the game and complain about the game cheating when it actually is very very nice with you, you should have more than just one good squad, you should have more than 6 sets, you should have most of your soldiers equiped

i had to face about 7 mechtoids, 6 cyberdiscs,a bunch of sectoid commanders and mutons by the dozen

i had my gear on, but sucked at the game cause i was a noob with only laser weapons
i still won on my second try

get yourself together and go fight soldier!

[Zer0]

İlk olarak Graye tarafından gönderildi:

It can come that late in the game? I've never managed to get all of that done prior to the base assault... *shrug*

Base defense comes around 2 weeks after alien base mission.

[Abaddon]

1. I didn't even know about this ♥♥♥♥ existing and all, I have like 2k cash that I could have used to outfit other soldiers if I had known that it could happen.
2. I'm not pissed because they attack you by surprise, but because it took me LONG TIME and steady playing to get a perfect C/I run that is going to get wrecked because some random crap mission that doesn't make any sense popped on my first EW playthough. YEAH <3
3. my barracks are maxed out, why can't they send like 30 people instead of 5 to defend a whole base. And after the first skirmish 3 people come and they are still naked, ffs that doesn't make any sense! they have robots and mind control aliens, go pick the plasma weapons, they are stored BESIDE the default ones you picked, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

so all in all, that mission sucks and it breaks a quite enjoyable game. after all i had to do to get everything up and running i'm going to lose a perfect C/I run due to this...

[Graye]

İlk olarak Zer0 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Graye tarafından gönderildi:

It can come that late in the game? I've never managed to get all of that done prior to the base assault... *shrug*

Base defense comes around 2 weeks after alien base mission.

Yeah.. but to have "perfect building placement, all tech and almost all foundry projects finished, 1 fully powered gene'd sniper, like 12 colonels in storage, exalt defeated" done 2 weeks after alien base.. I've just never been that successful, I suppose. I blew through missions. Avg game was around 20-30 hours. Most base assaults, I had lasers. On easier levels I may have had some low-end plasma. I've never had psi tech before the alien base.

My base assaults have normally been a mix of total junk gear, lasers, and minor plasma. I had a MECH once.

May have just been how I played? I never really stunned the guardian until I was ready for the alien base assault (I did once and they wouldn't shut up about the key). I also wanted to be as ready as possibly for a firestorm shortly after the base mission (Seems that once you scan and find the overseer, it is a bit more taxing on your interceptors).

Worst base defense I had was 6 drones, 3 cyberdiscs, 4 or 5 comms and mutons, 4 mechtoids, a few cryssalids, and a bunch of sectoids.

Easiest was 1 (2) Cyberdiscs (one "disappeared" after spawning), 3 (4) Drones, 4 sectoids, 2 Cryssalids, 2 Mechtoids, 2 mutons, 1 comm.

[Zer0]

İlk olarak Graye tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Zer0 tarafından gönderildi:

Base defense comes around 2 weeks after alien base mission.

Yeah.. but to have "perfect building placement, all tech and almost all foundry projects finished, 1 fully powered gene'd sniper, like 12 colonels in storage, exalt defeated" done 2 weeks after alien base.. I've just never been that successful, I suppose. I blew through missions. Avg game was around 20-30 hours. Most base assaults, I had lasers. On easier levels I may have had some low-end plasma. I've never had psi tech before the alien base.

My base assaults have normally been a mix of total junk gear, lasers, and minor plasma. I had a MECH once.

May have just been how I played? I never really stunned the guardian until I was ready for the alien base assault (I did once and they wouldn't shut up about the key). I also wanted to be as ready as possibly for a firestorm shortly after the base mission (Seems that once you scan and find the overseer, it is a bit more taxing on your interceptors).

Worst base defense I had was 6 drones, 3 cyberdiscs, 4 or 5 comms and mutons, 4 mechtoids, a few cryssalids, and a bunch of sectoids.

Easiest was 1 (2) Cyberdiscs (one "disappeared" after spawning), 3 (4) Drones, 4 sectoids, 2 Cryssalids, 2 Mechtoids, 2 mutons, 1 comm.

What I meant was don't do the alien base until you've finished with all that. You can prolong it for however long you want. The aliens will get harder but you'll be geared enough to handle them anyways.

[Abaddon]

im still playing (gave up anyway), berserk, 6 spiders, 3 cyberdisks, 2 seekers, 2 sectoid commanders, 2 floaters, added up to the mechtoids and that ♥♥♥♥ before. i will just start over, if there's something left of me to still like this game

[Abaddon]

4 more mutons and 2 more elite mutons. Now srsly how the ♥♥♥♥ am i supposed to kill all this with default gear.

tried to commit suicide but it makes me restart the mission

[Graye]

I would think that it wouldn't be extremely difficult once you've secured the launch bay. The Cyberdiscs and initial drop into the control room was my biggest hurtle. After that, you can just go slow and steady. You can fall back and funnel them in if need be.

Since the scenario just repeats when you die.. on move 1: Dash your soldiers as close to 1 space from the drop down points of the aliens in the control room. As soon as they come out to play. You're at point blank range... blast them in the face. Depending on what type of alien and the gear you have available, you may have to set up 2:1.

That leaves the discs and drones coming in. Secure the access points with multiple shots per entry. Grenade if needed.

After that, you should get some backup. Don't rush out into the cargo area. Set up shop b/t the cargo area and the control room and just stem the tide.

It totally depends on what you're given, as to how to handle the base defense beyond that. If your offense capabilities are lacking, don't assault. Set a good defense and pick off what you can. Eventually you probably will have more than you can handle at once. Fall back. Regroup. Pick some more off.

As you thin them out, start advancing back up. It can be a pain, but it depends on what you're given. At least you weren't dumped with just heavies and support. (My first base defense was like that..and they were all squaddies (except 2 backups) since they arrived the "day" before. The RNG loved me that day.)