[long war] Gunner and Rapid Fire

[Arbiter]

The second shot of the rapid fire ability ALWAYS misses, I tried reloading a save over and over again testing this, but every time the second shot misses. Is this some kind of bug?

[Nostil]

no. hit chances are predetermined.

[asd]

I guess it's a bug, but it doesn't miss all the time... though it's annoying when you miss 100% shots with rapid fire

[sockie82]

Unless you have a savescum game going, no matter how many times you reload it will always be the exact same result.

[asd]

Publicado originalmente por NCC-1707 Captain James T. Kirk:

no. hit chances are predetermined.

No, there's something wrong with this one, as I said you can miss 100% shots too

[sheep from hell]

under bugfixes for beta 14

- Attempted fix: Found bad local in CalcHitRolls that may have been messing up HEAT/Shredding damage modifiers when applied to Rapid Fire and In the Zone. We think this will fix the Rapid-Fire-2nd-shot-always-missing-bug.

[Arbiter]

I have 100% hit chance and Save Scum on

[Arbiter]

Publicado originalmente por sheep from hell:

under bugfixes for beta 14

- Attempted fix: Found bad local in CalcHitRolls that may have been messing up HEAT/Shredding damage modifiers when applied to Rapid Fire and In the Zone. We think this will fix the Rapid-Fire-2nd-shot-always-missing-bug.

I have the heat perk, thanks for your comment!

[Arbiter]

Im surprised to see how quickly this got replied on, Long War is really popular I guess.

[sheep from hell]

Publicado originalmente por corvah:

Im surprised to see how quickly this got replied on, Long War is really popular I guess.

just the try to kill time till beta 14 is released :D

[Arbiter]

So it's caused by the Heat perk, but only happens when both rapid fire and heat apply to the target. non mechanical units stil get hit twice

[sheep from hell]

Publicado originalmente por corvah:

So it's caused by the Heat perk, but only happens when both rapid fire and heat apply to the target. non mechanical units stil get hit twice

sry dont know. after running into two gamebreaking bugs in beta 13 and the huge list of issues in beta 13 i decided to wait for beta14 before continue playing lw

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

I know this is a little off topic, but I am a little underwhelmed by Rapid Fire versus Ready for Anything. I play with the 2nd Wave option Training Roulette and it seems fairly common to get Opportunist and Ready for Anything on a LMG gunner. They can have multiple kills in one turn synergizing with their squadmates flush shots or just doing multiple shots to bezerkers since they get to shoot at the bezerker every time he moves kind of like the Close Combat Specialist, but there is no range requirement. I don't think I have taken Double Tap either, but on the surface Double Tap seems better than Rapid Fire.

[asd]

I like taking rapid fire for saw gunners and double tap for lmg gunners, ready for anything if I selected covering fire... basically it's just a choice for two shots, but you can take whichever matches your playstyle. Rapid fire can be used anytime, but at -15 aim penalty, double tap lets you shoot twice, but only if you didn't move and can only do so every second turn, and ready for anything lets you shoot twice anytime if you didn't move, but the second shot can be only overwatch. Each has its advantages and disadvantages

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

The thing with Ready for Anything is that if someone has Flush, then they get a third shot. If you have 2 squadmates with flush than the gunner has 4 shots. If the squad is firing at bezerkers, the gunner can basically go from a full clip down to an empty clip in one turn or until the bezerkers are dead whichever comes first.