PlayStation Glyphs/Icons Setting, Please

[coldreactive]

When I first started the Sand Land Demo, a WARNING Dialogue appeared stating that Steam Input was enabled for my DualSense PlayStation 5 Controller, but it warned me that the game had native support for the DualSense PlayStation 5 Controller, and because Steam Input was being used, button prompts would not match the PlayStation Controller buttons, and would be using ABXY/etc.

So, I went to turn off Steam Input via the per-game Controller settings by right-clicking Sand Land and choosing to disable Steam Input.

When I tried to launch Sand Land again, a Steam Input Configuration Wizard dialogue appeared. I clicked cancel, as I didn't want to enable Steam Input. When I did click cancel, the game stopped launching.

I pressed play again, and no dialogue appeared whatsoever, and when I got to Language Selection, I noticed the Button Prompt showed the A button as if I was using an xbox Controller. So, I tried the force use DirectX 11 option, still showed the A Button as if I was using an xbox controller. No matter what I did, Enable Steam Input, disable Steam Input, nothing, would change the button icons/glyphs on the language selection screen to PlayStation ones.

Which is funny, because Eiyuden Chronicle's Beta that I had the privledge of playing, had PlayStation icons/glyphs natively. There's no option in-game in Sand Land to use PlayStation glyphs/icons either.

Publicado originalmente por coldreactive:

Apparently, using the default (Developer enabled) setting now suddenly will display PlayStation glyphs icons. I reinstalled the game.

Disabling Steam input will use Xbox Icons still however.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡]

Honestly, when a game says it has native DS4 or DualSense it usually means it applies when using the controller wired but not wirelessly which is disappointing because wirelessly is the way to enjoy everything.

What devs need to do is add an option in-game for choosing your preferred prompts to be displayed.
Yakuza, RE4 Remake, Persona 3 Reload and even a very low budget game like Made in Abyss has the option to display Playstation Buttons using the in-game options.

All games nowadays needs a setting to force the prompts in-game that you want displayed.

[coldreactive]

Publicado originalmente por 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

Honestly, when a game says it has native DS4 or DualSense it usually means it applies when using the controller wired but not wirelessly which is disappointing because wirelessly is the way to enjoy everything.

I'm using it wired. Since I don't want to accidentally turn on my PS5 when pressing the PS Button.

[coldreactive]

According to the people who maintain the SpecialK Mod, the game does load and include the playstation glyphs/icons, but never applies them.

[Odysseus]

Hi, just wanted to ask the same. DualSense is working fine but the button shows as XB button. Also DS4 not working when I plug it in. Maybe I have to restart that but I'm looking forward to play it with DualSense if they even have any adaptive triggers or haptic feedback, that would be really good.

[Kaldaien]

Special K can inject the DualShock 4 or DualSense glyphs that the game loads over top the Xbox ones. If you run the game in D3D11 mode.

It's probably not worth the hassle.

All I can say is, things could be worse. This is a Bandai Namco game, so they could have gone full idiot mode and shipped the game using the NATIVE Steam Input API.

As things are, they forced the Steam Input HID -> XInput translation layer on, but you as a user have the option to turn that off. The native Steam Input API cannot be turned off, and if they had used that, you'd get no input in this game at all (just like Tales of Arise).

[coldreactive]

Publicado originalmente por Kaldaien:

Special K can inject the DualShock 4 or DualSense glyphs that the game loads over top the Xbox ones. If you run the game in D3D11 mode.

It's probably not worth the hassle.

All I can say is, things could be worse. This is a Bandai Namco game, so they could have gone full idiot mode and shipped the game using the NATIVE Steam Input API.

As things are, they forced the Steam Input HID -> XInput translation layer on, but you as a user have the option to turn that off. The native Steam Input API cannot be turned off, and if they had used that, you'd get no input in this game at all (just like Tales of Arise).

That's why I'm eager for the Xbox Sebile controller rumored for May this year. So I don't have to worry about games not using PlayStation icons.

[Odysseus]

Hi, just an update to this, I restarted the game and already plugged in my DualSense and the game shows PS button

[coldreactive]

Apparently, using the default (Developer enabled) setting now suddenly will display PlayStation glyphs icons. I reinstalled the game.

Disabling Steam input will use Xbox Icons still however.

[Cataflano]

i used DSX with the dualsense edge with ds4 emulation for the extra buttom mapping and the game used playstation icons, not xbox

[aiko]

Weird, i tested with my Ds4, no extra configs, just worked perfectly, showing the correct symbols/ui.

[Kaldaien]

Just one of the joys of Steam Input, I'm going to wager. They probably had to push a setting change to their store config for the game.

That said, the game doesn't use native Steam Input API. It uses XInput translation. The game is treating your gamepad as an Xbox controller (when Steam Input is enabled), but asking Steam which icons to display.

That's baffling, because the game has native HID support if you turn Steam Input off. It knows both the USB and Bluetooth protocol for DualShock 4 and DualSense controllers, but it won't display the appropriate buttons unless Steam tells it to.

I hate Steam Input so much :-\ There's no reason for this, they did the work of writing native PlayStation code only to bung things up with an unnecessary dependency on the Steam client.

[coldreactive]

Publicado originalmente por Gato rosa do free fire:

Weird, i tested with my Ds4, no extra configs, just worked perfectly, showing the correct symbols/ui.

Please read two messages above yours. I want to mark my own post as an answer, but can't. I'm not marking anyone else's as an answer.