Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten

Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten

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Why is there no Switch version?
I know this isnt directly related to the PC release but given this is the only forum related to the game currently available in english i'm going to ask here.

The lack of a Switch version for the game is really baffling and disappointing. Do AQUAPLUS not like money? Especially as the switch is clearly a viable platform for JRPGs / VNs like this game too. this game isn't going to do as well in Japan as it could do as a result and this is also the case in the west.
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toughnails Apr 26, 2022 @ 4:00am 
Ask them on Twitter, this is a PC forum.

But I'll give my thoughts regardless. This is their very first foray into full 3D graphics, and the Switch hardware is really weak, optimizing the game to run well on the 7 year old chipset (Tegra X1) is going to take a lot of time and resources, which they can't spare.
Velesk Apr 26, 2022 @ 4:35am 
As someone who loves his Switch, in fact it's my favourite console, I'm so tired of people saying this ♥♥♥♥. I know you think you're the smartest kid on the block because you read sales numbers, but, maybe... and I know this is crazy but stay with me on this, Aquaplus has access to data you don't and thus came to the decision to sell it on the platforms chosen.

Like c'mon dude, don't be an armchair industry analyst when you don't know ♥♥♥♥.
the third man Apr 26, 2022 @ 4:58am 
I will never understand people who asks for a version of a game that would obviously run like sh!t.
Originally posted by toughnails:
Ask them on Twitter, this is a PC forum.

But I'll give my thoughts regardless. This is their very first foray into full 3D graphics, and the Switch hardware is really weak, optimizing the game to run well on the 7 year old chipset (Tegra X1) is going to take a lot of time and resources, which they can't spare.

they started development of this game years ago so they should have planned for situations like this.

i would ask them on twitter but Aquaplus don't have an english account.

Originally posted by Vel:
As someone who loves his Switch, in fact it's my favourite console, I'm so tired of people saying this ♥♥♥♥. I know you think you're the smartest kid on the block because you read sales numbers, but, maybe... and I know this is crazy but stay with me on this, Aquaplus has access to data you don't and thus came to the decision to sell it on the platforms chosen.

Like c'mon dude, don't be an armchair industry analyst when you don't know ♥♥♥♥.

i agree about aquaplus having access to more data then the public do, but that dosent mean theyve made the right decision. it's more likely these japanese devs can sometimes be very stubborn with their platform loyalities and act aoccordingly. just like atlus refusing to port mainline persona games to consoles even though the deand is there. there are japanese people on youtube/twitter asking about a switch version too.
badspot Apr 26, 2022 @ 11:09am 
Because Aquaplus isn't interested in making a Switch version. Simple as that. Switch isn't a powerful console.
Originally posted by badspot!:
Because Aquaplus isn't interested in making a Switch version. Simple as that. Switch isn't a powerful console.

source?
CLG Apr 26, 2022 @ 1:18pm 
The main and zan games never came to the switch either. Aquaplus just doesn't seem to care about the switch.
badspot Apr 26, 2022 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by HaruIsMyWaifu:
Originally posted by badspot!:
Because Aquaplus isn't interested in making a Switch version. Simple as that. Switch isn't a powerful console.

source?
They're not releasing the game on the Switch? It's releasing on PS4/PS5/PC in Japan.
Originally posted by badspot!:
Originally posted by HaruIsMyWaifu:

source?
They're not releasing the game on the Switch? It's releasing on PS4/PS5/PC in Japan.

did they give a reason as to why theyere not putting games on the switch? not releasing a game on switch isnt evidence by itself.
Minneyar Apr 27, 2022 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by HaruIsMyWaifu:
they started development of this game years ago so they should have planned for situations like this.
They did plan for situations like this; their plans just aren't what you wish they were.

Aquaplus is almost exclusively a Sony developer at the moment; the only game they've released for the Switch was Dokapon UP!, which was actually developed by Sting, not directly by Aquaplus. The decision to make a PC port was likely driven by their desire to expand in the West (since their COO has explicitly said that on Twitter), based on the success that the main three games in the series have seen on Steam.

Every development decision is made based on a risk-reward analysis, and they probably decided it wasn't worth trying to scale down their engine to work on low-powered hardware that they have zero experience developing for. In the end, the reason is always money.
Awaken Apr 27, 2022 @ 2:23pm 
Because the Switch can't even run the engine the game is built on, meaning you'd have to remake the game from basically nothing.

Just switch to a platform that has the game.
Originally posted by Minneyar:
Originally posted by HaruIsMyWaifu:
they started development of this game years ago so they should have planned for situations like this.
They did plan for situations like this; their plans just aren't what you wish they were.

Aquaplus is almost exclusively a Sony developer at the moment; the only game they've released for the Switch was Dokapon UP!, which was actually developed by Sting, not directly by Aquaplus. The decision to make a PC port was likely driven by their desire to expand in the West (since their COO has explicitly said that on Twitter), based on the success that the main three games in the series have seen on Steam.

Every development decision is made based on a risk-reward analysis, and they probably decided it wasn't worth trying to scale down their engine to work on low-powered hardware that they have zero experience developing for. In the end, the reason is always money.

i do agree that they did make a decision and doing a PC port day one is definitely the right move for them.

but considering how the switch is selling, they've really missed the boat not releasing any titles on it aside from the Dokapon game, not just for Utawarerumono. I can't see any issue with the Switch not being able to run the earlier trilogy of Utawarere games, White Album 2 etc.

it would help them expand in the west as well, cause westerners love dat switch collecting.
Masufu Oct 11, 2022 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by HaruIsMyWaifu:
Originally posted by Minneyar:
They did plan for situations like this; their plans just aren't what you wish they were.

Aquaplus is almost exclusively a Sony developer at the moment; the only game they've released for the Switch was Dokapon UP!, which was actually developed by Sting, not directly by Aquaplus. The decision to make a PC port was likely driven by their desire to expand in the West (since their COO has explicitly said that on Twitter), based on the success that the main three games in the series have seen on Steam.

Every development decision is made based on a risk-reward analysis, and they probably decided it wasn't worth trying to scale down their engine to work on low-powered hardware that they have zero experience developing for. In the end, the reason is always money.

i do agree that they did make a decision and doing a PC port day one is definitely the right move for them.

but considering how the switch is selling, they've really missed the boat not releasing any titles on it aside from the Dokapon game, not just for Utawarerumono. I can't see any issue with the Switch not being able to run the earlier trilogy of Utawarere games, White Album 2 etc.

it would help them expand in the west as well, cause westerners love dat switch collecting.

Port it to PC =/= Port it to Switch
There is more labor costs, cause switch CPU uses Arm architecture, besides PC uses X86 which uses also on PS4/5
For such small devoloper as Aqaplus this can be unreasonably.
And there's also can be a lot of resons, why they don't do it.
Red Oct 11, 2022 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by Masufu:
Originally posted by HaruIsMyWaifu:

i do agree that they did make a decision and doing a PC port day one is definitely the right move for them.

but considering how the switch is selling, they've really missed the boat not releasing any titles on it aside from the Dokapon game, not just for Utawarerumono. I can't see any issue with the Switch not being able to run the earlier trilogy of Utawarere games, White Album 2 etc.

it would help them expand in the west as well, cause westerners love dat switch collecting.

Port it to PC =/= Port it to Switch
There is more labor costs, cause switch CPU uses Arm architecture, besides PC uses X86 which uses also on PS4/5
For such small devoloper as Aqaplus this can be unreasonably.
And there's also can be a lot of resons, why they don't do it.
Just going to object, this specific game seems to be running on either Unity or Unreal Engine 4 which are both cross-platform engines that have tools to build for Switch. Now there *is* still custom code and optimisation to do for every platform of course, and that might be where the real issue lies, but the potential for a Switch release is already there.
Originally posted by Red:
Just going to object, this specific game seems to be running on either Unity or Unreal Engine 4 which are both cross-platform engines that have tools to build for Switch. Now there *is* still custom code and optimisation to do for every platform of course, and that might be where the real issue lies, but the potential for a Switch release is already there.

yep, and aquaplus did already release one game (Dokapon UP) for the Switch so it's possibly not a technical issue, they could have just made a business decision relating to the sales of that (although that is purely speculation, and even if they did, it's not a VN/RPG so that would be silly).

Plus sooner or later they'll have to start supporting it properly, especially because the Switch is the main console for VNs now. So even if Monochrome Mobius or the Uta series is never ported to it, if they ever want to release more VNs to consoles (especially titles liek To Heart 2 / White Album 2), they really only have one viable platform for that. And given the Japanese fanbase want to see more games like those, it's only a matter of time before they're forced to stop milking Uta.
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