Please add Denuvo

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Empress isn't in the game anymore (IYKYK) and companies need to protect their games (and profits). Please add Denuvo to this game to safeguard it.

Thanks Devs, looking forward to this game if Denuvo is added and protects the game.

[Kaldaien]

This. Make Steam customers use Denuvo.

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Needs to happen, all the people that don't like it are literal thieves and pirates.

[Ryokath]

I don't like Denuvo, and still I bought the game. So what ? Am I a thief and a pirate ?

[min3r95]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ryokath:

I don't like Denuvo, and still I bought the game. So what ? Am I a thief and a pirate ?

You're both. Time to admit you're just a pirate that love to pay, and a thief that love to put money in front of the cashier.

[Jin]

Denuvo is a costly service that company have to pay for + it takes more resources, which can affects performance and can give issues on Linux/steam deck.

You worry too much about piracy.
The game will be on game pass, which you can get for like 1 dollar for 14 days

[MegaMan]

Don't worry guys, I ordered a whole crate of corporate boots for you so you never run out of ones to lick!

[LazyAmerican]

Unbelievable how many people shill for such an intrusive "feature" that can potentially destroy game preservation if not properly removed.

[Shnitzki]

Conversely I am refunding this immediately if denuvo gets added

[tankanidis]

Reasons why Denuvo is bad for Legitimate Paying Customers

Taken from my forum posts in Dragon's Dogma 2:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

for me Denuvo has not noticeably affected any games that have had it for a very long time, so I have to assume this is some kind of mass hallucination experienced by poor people and those who mindlessly parrot anything they read online

Be sure to turn your internet off for a few days and see how you go with being held back from playing your paid for games, just because Denuvo isn't happy if it doesn't phone home

Or when Denuvo forgets to pay for its own domain website for an entire weekend, leaving everyone stranded, unable to play their legally purchased games. Again.

source:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/denuvo-drm-to-blame-for-games-becoming-temporarily-unplayable

https://www.pcgamer.com/a-great-day-for-drm-as-denuvo-lapse-renders-tons-of-games-temporarily-unplayable/

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/


This happened while Denuvo was an active company, and it still took them an entire weekend+ to fix this mistake that should have never happened

So what happens when Denuvo shuts down? What happens to all the games that have Denuvo infested within them?

We already know, because it happened to the original company that Denuvo was formed from. SecurROM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecuROM

"SecuROM protected games don't work anymore on Windows 10 and newer and since 2015 they also stopped working on Windows Vista, 7 and 8 because Microsoft released a security update.[4][5][6] The only way to play them now is with a crack which is a patched binary of the game in which SecuROM is circumvented. "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo

"Denuvo Anti-Tamper is an anti-tamper and digital rights management (DRM) system developed by the Austrian company Denuvo Software Solutions GmbH. The company was formed from a management buyout of DigitalWorks, the developer of SecuROM, and began developing the software in 2014."


So the same people that let your SecurROM games die when it went offline, are the same ones who put Denuvo on your current games.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

Why would I turn my internet off? I pay for it. My internet isn't going out.

That's literally not up to you. There are many cases when internet is down and rest of services are up. The fact remains that, the game that is 100% installed on your computer and requires no online connection, refuses to play because a 3rd party denies you access to your own paid game.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

Steam is already DRM? Literally all the same arguments can be used against Steam but it gets a free pass because..?

Steam is a platform that we legally purchase the games from. It's a DRM that we agree to have to purchase the game and play it on Steam. Denuvo is not needed for the sales process.

An example is : Witcher 3 sold 50 million copies, it contains 0 DRM/NO Denuvo. It proves Denuvo does not protect sales (otherwise Witcher 3 would've been pirated to death as Denuvo says and never sold 50 million copies)

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/05/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-has-sold-a-staggering-50-million-copies-since-2015

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

Like are you really pissing yourself over some games being "temporarily" inaccessible for a weekend due to human error? Sure, it's not ideal, but this is the digital age so it happens.

I bought my games. My computer works. I have electricity. Why can't i play them? Because a 3rd party i never agreed to, decided to not even bother paying for their domain website. You think a company that can't be bothered paying for its domain name re-registration is on-top of protecting a game and caring about customers?

It didn't have to happen. They don't need to be wrapped around the game in the first place. If i already have paid for the game, and Steam can prove i paid for it, why does a 3rd party company need to sit on-top of my game every time i launch it and decide whether i'm 'allowed' to pay my legally purchased game or not?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

Don't like it, then don't engage with modern gaming.

I have over 1000 games on Steam. Nearly all of them are without Denuvo. It is NOT Modern Gaming that requires Denuvo, it is Denuvo that is attempting to force its way into games to get paid that takes developer funding away from actually making a better game as an opportunity cost. Why waste the money? All the other games are fine without it, why bother with it if it doesn't even protect sales and just puts a burden over paying customers

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

There are negatives

We agree!

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย wolfqack:

I was talking about supposed performance hits, so actually none of this is relevant.

Denuvo has been proven to affect games via FPS drops/stuttering due to its invasive and over active need to check things constantly as you run the game

The game director of Tekken 7 Katsuhiro Harada openly stated that Tekken's 7's performance issues were due to Denuvo

https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/984791954872569857

https://wccftech.com/tekken-7-denuvo-drm-performance-issues/

It's so bad that they had to remove Denuvo from the game itself

https://gamerant.com/harada-tekken-8-no-denuvo-launch-feature/

" Thankfully, Bandai Namco eventually removed Denuvo from Tekken 7 entirely and based on Harada's response, it appears the team has learned their lesson."

They refuse to add Denuvo to Tekken 8 due to their direct experiences


So we've shown that, it does not protect sales at all, it does affect fps/stutters to the point games have to remove it, and it has already stopped legitimate paying customers from playing their games that they paid for.

So what's the point of having it again?

[NathanD7]

Denuvo is anti consumer. I presume you like licking corporate @ss cr@ck.

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I understand that you all want to steal this game but this is their first game. Do one genuine thing in your life and campaign for Denuvo in every game to save indie gamer's jobs.

To the devs: We Want Denuvo to help YOU. Thanks, and I look forward to purchasing the game unlike everyone in this thread.

[Bad Behavior Defender]

6 hours and no jester. Farming attempt failed

Don't feel too bad, everybody is on the oblivion forum instead.

[Brocknoth]

Get better bait OP, like holy hell. Of all the hills to die on to jester farm you picked the worst one.

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Not baiting. Ubisoft have the right idea. Hopefully this dev follows suit. Turrah!

[Kain]

Low quality bait.