Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

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Osku Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:37am
Have they done anything about the difficulty?
Title, it was ridiculously easy on release. Each boss enemy could be scanned for a clear indication on what their special killer move was, and if you just stacked those elemental mirror items in your inventory you could reflect it back whenever they started charging it, guaranteed.

Another issue was that the bosses could do nothing about you speccing to STR and almight attacks, you could have every elemental resistance either null or drain and just cleave through the bosses with the almight attacks like hot butter because there was literally nothing they could do about it.
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Local_Idiot Jun 14, 2024 @ 11:57am 
ive been play on the Vengeance route (Hard difficulty aswell) and ive died multiple times because i wasnt prepared. Ive also noticed they dont give out dampeners nearly as much as they did, and while you can still buy them, they are kinda expensive.
Enor Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
that's the thing about this game. i've played it for like 5 hours now and am bored beyond belief. game is crazy easy. fights are super simplistic. just spam your most powerful moves while making sure you do not have weaknesses that the bosses spam out. buff/debuff if necessary. quests are either fetch or kill. story is meh. no idea why people call this game great or difficult.
Fast Pooper Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:30pm 
Turn based is either a chore or its easy theres no way to make it actually difficult and they didn't want to lose Persona casuals so...
ANDS! Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
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Way easier ways to self-fellate than a humble-brag on STEAM.
NijimaXL Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
To make it hard, don't level up and rush the game every event.
FIo Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:56pm 
Hello,

From my point of view, no game is really hard. Souls like for example, it is often possible to break the game depending on the class, the equipment and the way of playing. It is also possible to make a game like Pokemon Violet/Scarlet difficult by limiting the number of pokemon in the team without using a healing potion. SMT5V is the same thing, you can set the difficulty to the hardest, you will inevitably find a way to break the game... But personally, I like it! I played Gothic 3, Risen and Elex, after a while you break the game but it's fun. If you really want to make the experience harder, stop using items, remove a demon from your team, there is no shortage of solutions.

Excuse me, I use translator :)
Cloud Jun 14, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Fast Pooper:
Turn based is either a chore or its easy theres no way to make it actually difficult and they didn't want to lose Persona casuals so...
Hard disagree, you have to play better rpgs.

Well balanced rpgs establish the best way to go on a fight and allow you 1 to 2 mistakes in the fight. Difficulty should work in a way to remove the right to a mistake.

That's how it was for some persona games's early game.

DEMAND balance guys, it's not a flex in any way, some people like to actually think and strategise, FF7 and other rpgs did it well, there is no defense for a studio that have been making rpg games for a decade now
Matt Jun 14, 2024 @ 1:12pm 
I died in the first fight on normal due to multiple lucky criticals from the slimes so its anyones guess.
borizb Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by ANDS!:
Way easier ways to self-fellate than a humble-brag on STEAM.
r/megaten is full of these people. Better just block these baiters and move on
Originally posted by Fast Pooper:
Turn based is either a chore or its easy theres no way to make it actually difficult and they didn't want to lose Persona casuals so...

Complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from someone who obviously isn't a fan of JRPGs...
Lmao, feel free to ignore Enor completely.

"if they are OP, then just ... dont use them lol. guess they want somebody else to hold their hand and make sure they dont succumb to their weakass willpower."

Bro posting this in the P5R topic about OP DLC. And persona fans call SMT fans the toxic ones.
Overeagerdragon Jun 14, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
Play on hard mode and spec into slime..... You wanted a hard game right ?
Skysagi Jun 16, 2024 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by Cactusflo:
Hello,

From my point of view, no game is really hard. Souls like for example, it is often possible to break the game depending on the class, the equipment and the way of playing. It is also possible to make a game like Pokemon Violet/Scarlet difficult by limiting the number of pokemon in the team without using a healing potion. SMT5V is the same thing, you can set the difficulty to the hardest, you will inevitably find a way to break the game... But personally, I like it! I played Gothic 3, Risen and Elex, after a while you break the game but it's fun. If you really want to make the experience harder, stop using items, remove a demon from your team, there is no shortage of solutions.

Excuse me, I use translator :)

"If you really want REAL hard try curing cancer" but with a wall of text instead.
Swimfan Jun 16, 2024 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Osku:
Title, it was ridiculously easy on release. Each boss enemy could be scanned for a clear indication on what their special killer move was, and if you just stacked those elemental mirror items in your inventory you could reflect it back whenever they started charging it, guaranteed.

Another issue was that the bosses could do nothing about you speccing to STR and almight attacks, you could have every elemental resistance either null or drain and just cleave through the bosses with the almight attacks like hot butter because there was literally nothing they could do about it.

No it wasn't, stop bragging on Steam, that's just sad.

It was much easier if you knew how a SMT game functions what is effective/what isn't and then repeadedly used that strategy - but that's basically the "flaw" of almost every turn-based rpg. If you didn't know those strats and played with a varied party, the game was decently challenging.

It's just like saying Elden Ring is easy ... yes, if you've played thousands upon thousands of hours of Soulsborne, the game is def. easier than if you were a newb to the genre.
Last edited by Swimfan; Jun 16, 2024 @ 7:18am
viktorhallo Jun 16, 2024 @ 7:58am 
unless you buy the mitama DLC or massively grind the game should be relatively challenging at hard.
i had the mitama DLC on switch and used it for postgame grind. and you probably level up and gain 10 times more money when using it.
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