They really missed the mark on the price.

[gryphonv]

Should of been a collection at the price of one game.

I doubt its going to sell that much, its already a very niche game and the price is going to scare many off.

Especially in todays market.

[shade00]

knowing how retro gamers are and it being on pc and console
there will be a bit of sales some will be at the start
others will wait and see how it runs

those wise enough will look for discounts on official seller websites 18% off fanatical think saw
humbles got a discount, think greenman gaming too, prices can be found cheaper via other sellers that work with the publishers and devs

[gryphonv]

Originally posted by shade00:

knowing how retro gamers are and it being on pc and console
there will be a bit of sales some will be at the start
others will wait and see how it runs

those wise enough will look for discounts on official seller websites 18% off fanatical think saw
humbles got a discount, think greenman gaming too, prices can be found cheaper via other sellers that work with the publishers and devs

I agree, but I also feel when you set the price so high that it appears to be greedy, it drives more people to seek alternative methods of getting the product.

[shade00]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Originally posted by shade00:

knowing how retro gamers are and it being on pc and console
there will be a bit of sales some will be at the start
others will wait and see how it runs

those wise enough will look for discounts on official seller websites 18% off fanatical think saw
humbles got a discount, think greenman gaming too, prices can be found cheaper via other sellers that work with the publishers and devs

I agree, but I also feel when you set the price so high that it appears to be greedy, it drives more people to seek alternative methods of getting the product.

when it comes down to it
creating updating upgrading video games costs a bit of money
each companie has various teams working on different things which most dont know this
alot of money time and work goes into making these games
ive spoke with alot of indie devs and some who work for big publishers and researched a bit
use to wanna be a programmer a beta tester for game developers
but then saw how much work goes into it and backed off the idea
it gets intense, worse if the company sets a tough deadline

so i dont think greed falls into play really most of the time
the cart versions would cost far more, there allowing deeper discounts on other sellers official ones
there are usually marketing teams and i assume there the ones that help price point them
and most companies would be smart to put the cost to make against sale price
which makes one wonder how much it cost to create the remaster/remakes?

if folks wanna seek other routes thats there choice
but some of those routes come with risks

all in all im just happy to see them appear for new generations
as not everyone likes to take risks nor other routes

[gryphonv]

Originally posted by shade00:

Originally posted by gryphonv:

I agree, but I also feel when you set the price so high that it appears to be greedy, it drives more people to seek alternative methods of getting the product.

when it comes down to it
creating updating upgrading video games costs a bit of money
each companie has various teams working on different things which most dont know this
alot of money time and work goes into making these games
ive spoke with alot of indie devs and some who work for big publishers and researched a bit
use to wanna be a programmer a beta tester for game developers
but then saw how much work goes into it and backed off the idea
it gets intense, worse if the company sets a tough deadline

so i dont think greed falls into play really most of the time
the cart versions would cost far more, there allowing deeper discounts on other sellers official ones
there are usually marketing teams and i assume there the ones that help price point them
and most companies would be smart to put the cost to make against sale price
which makes one wonder how much it cost to create the remaster/remakes?

if folks wanna seek other routes thats there choice
but some of those routes come with risks

all in all im just happy to see them appear for new generations
as not everyone likes to take risks nor other routes

Oh its no doubt it costs money. But pricing it at a certain point can end up hurting sales and mean they make less money back.

Yes it would cost more if it was a cart, but also a cart cost them more to produce.

[shade00]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Originally posted by shade00:

when it comes down to it
creating updating upgrading video games costs a bit of money
each companie has various teams working on different things which most dont know this
alot of money time and work goes into making these games
ive spoke with alot of indie devs and some who work for big publishers and researched a bit
use to wanna be a programmer a beta tester for game developers
but then saw how much work goes into it and backed off the idea
it gets intense, worse if the company sets a tough deadline

so i dont think greed falls into play really most of the time
the cart versions would cost far more, there allowing deeper discounts on other sellers official ones
there are usually marketing teams and i assume there the ones that help price point them
and most companies would be smart to put the cost to make against sale price
which makes one wonder how much it cost to create the remaster/remakes?

if folks wanna seek other routes thats there choice
but some of those routes come with risks

all in all im just happy to see them appear for new generations
as not everyone likes to take risks nor other routes

Oh its no doubt it costs money. But pricing it at a certain point can end up hurting sales and mean they make less money back.

Yes it would cost more if it was a cart, but also a cart cost them more to produce.

cart price were same as digital normally
i got most of them digital on 3ds sales

thats very true but they always need to make a return investment, so maybe it cost a bit to create? not trying to defend anything
but an recode from ds-3ds to pc would take a bit of work and money, really wish we could see the production values

[Rei dos Vermes]

Dungeon crawlers are right up my alley. But without regional prices, the trilogy costs as much as three brand new AAA releases around here. Hard pass, unfortunatelly.

[GRIMM]

Humblebundle.com + 20% off (need to stick with Choice for a year or more for this discount) made this a bit easier. But yeah, I agree the regular price is a bit high.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Cheaper is always better, but even at the just shy of 10000 price tag for the bundle I'd still say it's worth it more than most modern releases, though admittedly it's also because I already know these are god-tier games, so for those not in the know a demo version would've been a good idea.

[Krude]

I mean to be fair this is starting to be along the lines of "it might as well have been free because that's what I really want because that's what's best for me"


Like come on, putting a ds game onto pc as it's own pc version isn't just dragging some files, people work on it and they have wages, unexpected issues come up and then you have to make it work on multiple different pieces of hardware (that's why pc has the most bugs of all platforms, it's hard because of so much hardware variety).

So saying they should charge the price of one game for three games is kind of whack, I get times are bad but that's also true for the games industry, we literally saw the aoe4/coh3 dev have to fire half their company, think about that.

at this point, just stop crying about it, wait for a sale and buy it then, or do what I and others did: Support a game you love that's niche af and therefore invest into the future of the IP.

It's that simple, impatience, desperation, frustration etc is all understandable but like come on...

We ALL know what we are getting out of this, EO games are a ton of fun and I can think of plenty of 5 hour long games that cost 20£

So what's the big issue with 80 for THREE games each 60 hours worth. Hell decide to replay it again, that's another 60 hours.

I've played eo1 four times, eo2 three, eo3 like 8 times, 4 twice, 5 three times, nexus twice and untold 1/2 4 and 3 times.

I am pretty damn sure I am getting my value out of it, and it's like...

I'm pretty sure you all are too... but I can't be the only one tired of people crying about prices on so many games now oblivious to the state of the industry, while not realizing by now that you vote with your wallet, not by sabotaging the games release by dedicating half the front page of threads to be about the price.

That just pushes potential new buyers to the genre away because all they see is moaning, when they could've been met by a ton of talk about how good the game is, nevermind the fact it makes people who don't care about the price and are excited feel bad about their purchase because others can't afford it.

Like legit chill, vote with your wallet, wait for a sale, but contribute positively to discussion about this game so it's more friendly so we can get more people introduced to this absolutely bloody gem of a game and more fans also means more chance of a new EO on switch or something.

Have some discipline over your frustration because while I get it, I've been there, but none of my crying about a games price has ever done anything.

People cried about the elden ring price, they bought it full price anyway because it was that hype, that talked about, that enjoyable and not a single one of them was sad about spending full price because that game was fire.


at what is 50p per hour of entertainment for just a single playthrough of each game, that's a deal imo.

[Fyuun]

Now that a lot of new games are $70+ and a lot of live service "games" want $20+ for one skin, maybe Atlus gets away with the high price for basically three DS games.

You can say that Atlus' greed is outpaced bigly by the greed of other companies. It's actually pretty funny how the Etrian Odyssey collection starts to seem reasonable priced, simply because other AAA companies now turned into credit card swiping simulators.

[SirNinja]

These are really long, replayable, challenging, and good-quality dungeon crawlers. For what you pay, the price isn't too bad. You could get 50 hours out of each of these games pretty easily.

The big issue is the timing of the release. These games are coming out in an extremely busy time for industry heavy-hitters: Tears of the Kingdom was like 2 weeks ago, Diablo IV and Street Fighter VI are just days away, then Final Fantasy XVI a little after that, etc. I love the Etrian games, but these are going to get absolutely buried in the storm here.

[Shylaar]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Should of been a collection at the price of one game.

I doubt its going to sell that much, its already a very niche game and the price is going to scare many off.

Especially in todays market.

Yeah. It's extremely overpriced for what amounts to barely above minimum effort ports of DS games. I already bought them once, for this price I'm not buying them again, even if Atlus wants to play ransom with Next Stage.

[ZyloWolfBane]

I could forgive the pricing if these weren't just straight ports of the originals, and it's still technically better than buying the originals. But that doesn't make it right, all three games priced at $70 would've been fine.

Skipping physical editions on switch is just asinine too. Oh and denuvo on steam.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by ZyloWolfBane:

Skipping physical editions on switch is just asinine too.

There is physical edition on Switch, my copy just arrived this morning.

[MinocFox]

Originally posted by SirNinja:

These are really long, replayable, challenging, and good-quality dungeon crawlers. For what you pay, the price isn't too bad. You could get 50 hours out of each of these games pretty easily.

The big issue is the timing of the release. These games are coming out in an extremely busy time for industry heavy-hitters: Tears of the Kingdom was like 2 weeks ago, Diablo IV and Street Fighter VI are just days away, then Final Fantasy XVI a little after that, etc. I love the Etrian games, but these are going to get absolutely buried in the storm here.

These are all very diverse games. Not every gamer plays every game that exists lol.