Fun game but..

[martwica]

BUFF ARCHERS!!!

[Bilgot the Heartless]

Why would you buff class that destroys everyone fun of the game?

[MajMoLester]

Agreed. I don't think I've met a class that can't out run the archer. Kind of concerning when you can see an enemy with multiple arrows in his head and he's not dead.

[Pepsu]

no no no no........NO

[Avid]

ho ho ho....no

[Food Stamps]

I think some of the archers weapons need a buff but not the class as a whole. The first bow you get for instance is absolutely terrible in damage so most just use the crossbow. It does make sense though why the damage output is low because archers are really just meant to do minor damage to the other team while your teammates are fighting em. Making them have easier one shot capabilities would completely ruin the fluidity of the game.

[Intel]

Idk man javelins are stupid op. A decent jav tossed can kill me 50% health or more w one jav. Can’t speak for arrows, they’ve always done mid damage unless u hit a vital headshot.

[Judeo-communism]

Archers are OP, you're just bad.

[martwica]

Originally posted by Google metzitzah:

Archers are OP, you're just bad.

No wonder i just started playing archer. Mastered melee combat in 5 hours its super easy so I swapped to more difficult class

[cucamonster]

I use archer to play a support role, but it sucks when you put 2 arrows into someone's skull and they wont die. I normally can kill other archers a lot easier (normally 2 to 3 arrows still) but archer battles turn into this weird sidesteping dance while shooting eachother. Something wrong there. Also headshot should be instakill with any kind of ranged weapon.

[baerra]

If you think you're ghosted with a lot of swings as melee, imagine that 10x with an archer. Your arrows very clearly go completely through people, half the time they hit when you don't expect them to. I mean if an archer is shooting at me from range I can pretty much sidestep their shot if it isn't a war bow. That's ontop of there being serious arrow drop, which is fine if not for the obvious ghosting. This is also ignoring they do very little damage to many of the armored classes unless it hits their head, and well, goodluck with that if you can't hit them in general.

And honestly I don't think archers wearing basically no armor should be able to be run down by enemies with 2H weapons in full heavy armor if you're trying to be realistic with archery weapons, either. Nor do I think an archer should be capable of blocking anyone with a 2H without immediately losing every ounce of stam. One way or another "fine" is not a word I would use to describe every ranged class.

[Vyin]

Even tho at least half of the players hate archers,i think there is much worse stuff game-balance wise (i'm looking at you spears)

archery feels not very rewarding, even when landing HS.

[Judeo-communism]

Originally posted by Vyin:

Even tho at least half of the players hate archers,i think there is much worse stuff game-balance wise (i'm looking at you spears)

archery feels not very rewarding, even when landing HS.

Archers are fundamentally the most OP in Chiv 1 and Chiv 2 by nature of their game design. A rank 5 archer is far more deadly and OP than any rank 1000 knight or vanguard because a rank 5 archer can kill the rank 1000 player with no counter play especially in team fights. You do not dodge an archer. The archer simply misses. As long as that archer does not make a mistake, they control you, and no matter how much unpredictable movement/jumping/serpentine you do, they can and will hit you if they do not suck, multiple times, way before you're ever in range to hit them and stop them. And they will dodge your throw, or parry it. A shield works better in this game while holding, but shields are soooo bad because of how much they slow you down, can break, and drain stamina way too fast while holding.

Archers are OP, and if you disagree you're bad.

[McSweeny]

Originally posted by Google metzitzah:

Originally posted by Vyin:

Even tho at least half of the players hate archers,i think there is much worse stuff game-balance wise (i'm looking at you spears)

archery feels not very rewarding, even when landing HS.

Archers are fundamentally the most OP in Chiv 1 and Chiv 2 by nature of their game design. A rank 5 archer is far more deadly and OP than any rank 1000 knight or vanguard because a rank 5 archer can kill the rank 1000 player with no counter play especially in team fights. You do not dodge an archer. The archer simply misses. As long as that archer does not make a mistake, they control you, and no matter how much unpredictable movement/jumping/serpentine you do, they can and will hit you if they do not suck, multiple times, way before you're ever in range to hit them and stop them. And they will dodge your throw, or parry it. A shield works better in this game while holding, but shields are soooo bad because of how much they slow you down, can break, and drain stamina way too fast while holding.

Archers are OP, and if you disagree you're bad.

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[Aya]

Originally posted by martwica:

BUFF ARCHERS!!!

Archers are a very delicate thing to balance. Make 'em too good, and you'll have Bannerlord before that game's respective May 27th 2022 patch.

I think they're in an okay position as they are now since crossbow and bow attacks are still decent in a 2v1 context.

However, I will say that the Javelin could do with some buffs to make up for being slow as all heck and having the underhand thrust for a slash. I still think they should change its damage from 85 Cut to 75 Blunt. As it currently stands, throwing axes are better in nearly every way.

[KWAiRT]

My only issues with archer was the crosshair centered in third person made it impossible to see what I was aiming at. Then when fighting melee I always have to switch to third person. Those two issues alone keep me from playing archer. I get killed by plenty of archers though let me tell you some of them are absolutely deadly.