Why no SMT in the name?

[Zell 427]

Thought this was something completely unrelated but then i saw the SMT monsters soooooo wtf? lol

[Jubejubes]

It's not labled as a devil summoner game either, because outside this one game, none of the devil summoner games made it outside japan.

[SilentBugler]

Originally posted by 1001GamesLiveTTV:

It's not labled as a devil summoner game either, because outside this one game, none of the devil summoner games made it outside japan.

I didn't know this before now, but upon a wikipedia investigation it seems that EVERY Devil Summoner game, except the first one, has been released in English.
Soul Hackers 1 (second Devil Summoner) was re-released and localised on the 3DS in 2013

[Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr]

How would the smt name draw attention to it? They'd be better off calling it Persona: Soul Hackers Royale V. That would get people to click on it.

[..::RS::..]

A SMT player would know this is a SMT spinoff..
A Persona player would not care if it was a SMT spinoff..
It hurts but it's better if they don't put SMT on the title.

SMT is 100000% the better game but people want persona and atlus wants money.. So, you know..

[OverKill]

Originally posted by Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr:

How would the smt name draw attention to it? They'd be better off calling it Persona: Soul Hackers Royale V. That would get people to click on it.

I think calling all other Megami Tensei games Persona would hurt more than help, too. As funny as it would be to do so, once the average Persona fan finds out(if they even play the games) that you can't simulate dating the characters, they'll be massively disappointed.

[Cutlass Jack]

They're already putting in Persona costumes to lure in the fans.

SMT in the title wouldn't help sales more than having a hot girl in the art would. But I think the '2' in the title is detrimental. Since the first isn't even slightly available and the game isn't a sequel. A non numeric word would be better.

[Villain]

It's closer to persona, this iteration at least.

[Miesmann - allkeyshop]

dosnt matter what they call games aslong we see Decarabia in screen shots or trailers we know its gonna be epic spin off of smt

[egeslean05]

Originally posted by ..::RS::..:

A SMT player would know this is a SMT spinoff..
A Persona player would not care if it was a SMT spinoff..
It hurts but it's better if they don't put SMT on the title.

SMT is 100000% the better game but people want persona and atlus wants money.. So, you know..

I only played a bit of a SMT game years ago, never got close to finishing it (can't remember why though, probably got distracted by school or something). I played a bit of Persona...1..I think, maybe it was 2, got basically no where with it. Played a bit of 3 before my copy died on me (used). Played Persona 5 and was hooked and have replayed 5/Royal ...like 18 times or more. Finished 4 on my vita.
I wanted to give SMT another shot, but there seems to be a lot of different versions of it and I have no idea where would be a good place to jump in, also the gameplay (from what little I can remember) didn't jive with me very much.
All that said...Yeah, I want this to say SMT. It's part of that series (or a part of a part of that series).

Originally posted by OverKill:

I think calling all other Megami Tensei games Persona would hurt more than help, too. As funny as it would be to do so, once the average Persona fan finds out(if they even play the games) that you can't simulate dating the characters, they'll be massively disappointed.

I'm gonna say 'no' to that. I think you don't understand, or are at least belittling, why people like Persona. It's not the 'dating' aspect of it (cuz let's be honest, the 'dating' part of the games is barely anything, hardly enough to even nibble on). I would bet it's the general gameplay, presentation, and the way the Persona games do their story and character interactions is why the average Persona fan play that instead of SMT. (But as I said above, I haven't played much of SMT, so what I'm saying here is more of a guess based on what I've seen/heard from those who have played SMT and Persona.)

[OverKill]

Originally posted by egeslean05:

Originally posted by OverKill:

I think calling all other Megami Tensei games Persona would hurt more than help, too. As funny as it would be to do so, once the average Persona fan finds out(if they even play the games) that you can't simulate dating the characters, they'll be massively disappointed.

I'm gonna say 'no' to that. I think you don't understand, or are at least belittling, why people like Persona. It's not the 'dating' aspect of it (cuz let's be honest, the 'dating' part of the games is barely anything, hardly enough to even nibble on). I would bet it's the general gameplay, presentation, and the way the Persona games do their story and character interactions is why the average Persona fan play that instead of SMT. (But as I said above, I haven't played much of SMT, so what I'm saying here is more of a guess based on what I've seen/heard from those who have played SMT and Persona.)

It is in fact the social simulation aspect of it all. Find discussion on any Megami Tensei game in any community where someone new is inquiring about the game, the most common questions asked are how similar is it to Persona and if romance/friendship building are apart of the game. You yourself are an example of what I am talking about, even mentioning the character interactions. If they weren't such a big deal, you'd already have had a hefty playthrough of various non-Persona Megami Tensei games.

There's really nothing wrong with only playing a narrow amount of games, but to brush off the KEY reason why Persona is the only Megaten game with any kind of broad recognition among people who play the video games is outright ignoring reality.

Persona Dancing Trilogy are the best Megaten games that are not Strange Journey

[Gabi]

Trying to follow the logic of Atlus will not bear fruit. They make some amazing games, but there business decisions are just wild.

[egeslean05]

Originally posted by OverKill:

It is in fact the social simulation aspect of it all. Find discussion on any Megami Tensei game in any community where someone new is inquiring about the game, the most common questions asked are how similar is it to Persona and if romance/friendship building are apart of the game. You yourself are an example of what I am talking about, even mentioning the character interactions. If they weren't such a big deal, you'd already have had a hefty playthrough of various non-Persona Megami Tensei games.

There's really nothing wrong with only playing a narrow amount of games, but to brush off the KEY reason why Persona is the only Megaten game with any kind of broad recognition among people who play the video games is outright ignoring reality.

Persona Dancing Trilogy are the best Megaten games that are not Strange Journey

I didn't 'brush off' anything, I did say the "story and character interactions", while YOU said "dating". Dating = interaction but interaction =/= dating, they're not the same thing.

[Monterossa]

Basic marketing... Making the game sounds like it's part of a huge series, there will be people who think that "I need to play the previous games first, so I'll buy this later".

Hell, even having numbers in the title can be bad. This is why some games nowadays decided to go with secondary titles instead of numbers, like Yakuza: Like a Dragon, instead of Yakuza 8.

[Lestrad]

I take it that despite calling this "2" that, given the length of time since the last game in this franchise, the two have absolutely nothing to do with eachother? I hate jumping into a franchise without being able to start from the beginning.

[Lemiru]

Originally posted by Lestrad:

I take it that despite calling this "2" that, given the length of time since the last game in this franchise, the two have absolutely nothing to do with eachother? I hate jumping into a franchise without being able to start from the beginning.

Yea, it commonly works differently japan, especially with JRPGs, in most cases they are meant to be a standalone story. Here the difference is just that the game takes place in the same version of the world, so there will be some references to previous games, but probably nothing critical to know