STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor™

STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor™

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main character looks horrible
am i the only one that just absolutely hates how the main character looks, i literally waited as long as possible to play the first game till mods came out just so i can finally change the entire look of the character so that i could actually enjoy the game, the way he looks just doesnt belong in star wars at all.
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Considering the specific time period the game takes place in and how Jedi are typically treated when discovered, don't you think it would be kinda silly to wear an outfit that advertises "Hey, I am part of a group that is being actively purged"?
they dont ever go to populated places, the only populated place was the beginning of the game

That doesn't really matter. Why would you even keep an outfit that is essentially a neon sign telling everyone that you are a potential target?

To be blunt. This is like complaining that Luke Skywalker isn't wearing proper brown/beige prequel trilogy style Jedi robes in Return of the Jedi. It is just absurd.
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they dont ever go to populated places, the only populated place was the beginning of the game

That doesn't really matter. Why would you even keep an outfit that is essentially a neon sign telling everyone that you are a potential target?

To be blunt. This is like complaining that Luke Skywalker isn't wearing proper brown/beige prequel trilogy style Jedi robes in Return of the Jedi. It is just absurd.
no whats absurd is dressing up a jedi like han solo. luke wore jedi robes while in hiding, why cant cal? oh because we gotta please every single corner of the fandom and their ideologies otherwise the game aint good.
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That doesn't really matter. Why would you even keep an outfit that is essentially a neon sign telling everyone that you are a potential target?

To be blunt. This is like complaining that Luke Skywalker isn't wearing proper brown/beige prequel trilogy style Jedi robes in Return of the Jedi. It is just absurd.
no whats absurd is dressing up a jedi like han solo. luke wore jedi robes while in hiding, why cant cal? oh because we gotta please every single corner of the fandom and their ideologies otherwise the game aint good.

Why is it such an issue? What possible reason is there to feel this strongly about what a fictional character is wearing? Especially when the context gives you all the answers you would need in that regard.

Having a personal opinion is one thing but you are really determined to emotionally double down for absolutely no reason.
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no whats absurd is dressing up a jedi like han solo. luke wore jedi robes while in hiding, why cant cal? oh because we gotta please every single corner of the fandom and their ideologies otherwise the game aint good.

Why is it such an issue? What possible reason is there to feel this strongly about what a fictional character is wearing? Especially when the context gives you all the answers you would need in that regard.

Having a personal opinion is one thing but you are really determined to emotionally double down for absolutely no reason.
im not doubling down, im replying to your constant replies. if anything you seem more dedicated to continuing this stupid ass conversation than i am
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Why is it such an issue? What possible reason is there to feel this strongly about what a fictional character is wearing? Especially when the context gives you all the answers you would need in that regard.

Having a personal opinion is one thing but you are really determined to emotionally double down for absolutely no reason.
im not doubling down, im replying to your constant replies. if anything you seem more dedicated to continuing this stupid ass conversation than i am

It is important to keep in mind that this particular conversation is of your creation, not anyone else's. You are the one with the "hot takes".
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im not doubling down, im replying to your constant replies. if anything you seem more dedicated to continuing this stupid ass conversation than i am

It is important to keep in mind that this particular conversation is of your creation, not anyone else's. You are the one with the "hot takes".
its not a hot take, others also agree with me that they dont like the character, some dont even like the games period which i can see also
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It is important to keep in mind that this particular conversation is of your creation, not anyone else's. You are the one with the "hot takes".
its not a hot take, others also agree with me that they dont like the character, some dont even like the games period which i can see also

I am on of those that wasn't exactly wowed by the first game. I don't think the Soulslike/Metroidvania elements were handled well at all and most of them did nothing to reinforce the Star Wars setting. That being said. I know that is my take. I know that while others might agree, I am not saying anything that has any real weight and thus don't try to drum up a sense of false consensus. People clearly liked the elements that I didn't even if I personally felt that they "were not Star Wars enough".

With all that said. I still don't really get why you made the original declaration that "the way he looks just doesnt belong in star wars at all." Maybe you don't personally like how the actor looks on an aesthetic level. Maybe you just have some personal bias against some specific physical characteristic but when one takes a look at the casting, make-up, and wardrobe choices across the entire film (and TV) franchise, it is pretty clear that the character does actually fit even if it isn't to your own personal taste. There is nothing about the actor's physical appearance or the general design of the character in game that goes against any of the established aesthetic choices in the films/TV shows.

If anything. One could make a strong argument that the character fairly rigidly follows the Luke Skywalker template.

So you come on to the Steam discussion forum where a lot of people are giving and discussing opinions, let loose your hot take, and then complain when people discuss it? When people actually engage with you and challenge you based on that opinion that you held strong enough that you felt it should be released into the wild? If you don't want to discuss or even defend your opinions, why post them? Why attack those that challenge you as if they are somehow the instigating factor?
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its not a hot take, others also agree with me that they dont like the character, some dont even like the games period which i can see also

I am on of those that wasn't exactly wowed by the first game. I don't think the Soulslike/Metroidvania elements were handled well at all and most of them did nothing to reinforce the Star Wars setting. That being said. I know that is my take. I know that while others might agree, I am not saying anything that has any real weight and thus don't try to drum up a sense of false consensus. People clearly liked the elements that I didn't even if I personally felt that they "were not Star Wars enough".

With all that said. I still don't really get why you made the original declaration that "the way he looks just doesnt belong in star wars at all." Maybe you don't personally like how the actor looks on an aesthetic level. Maybe you just have some personal bias against some specific physical characteristic but when one takes a look at the casting, make-up, and wardrobe choices across the entire film (and TV) franchise, it is pretty clear that the character does actually fit even if it isn't to your own personal taste. There is nothing about the actor's physical appearance or the general design of the character in game that goes against any of the established aesthetic choices in the films/TV shows.

If anything. One could make a strong argument that the character fairly rigidly follows the Luke Skywalker template.

So you come on to the Steam discussion forum where a lot of people are giving and discussing opinions, let loose your hot take, and then complain when people discuss it? When people actually engage with you and challenge you based on that opinion that you held strong enough that you felt it should be released into the wild? If you don't want to discuss or even defend your opinions, why post them? Why attack those that challenge you as if they are somehow the instigating factor?
i dont care to read all of that lol
supamat 1 febr. 2023 la 2:35 
I never liked the actor this character us based on and therefor I have only negative feelings about the character. I wish the actor would get hash tag mee too'ed so they could change the character model
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I never liked the actor this character us based on and therefor I have only negative feelings about the character. I wish the actor would get hash tag mee too'ed so they could change the character model

Yikes. I suppose it is pretty easy to say such awful stuff from the safety of the internet.
Don't play it, it's not gonna miss you, nobody will.
Case closed.
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I never liked the actor this character us based on and therefor I have only negative feelings about the character. I wish the actor would get hash tag mee too'ed so they could change the character model

Yikes. I suppose it is pretty easy to say such awful stuff from the safety of the internet.
because someone doesnt like the character doesn't mean theyre saying it in safety, its their opinion like its yours to like it. are we telling you that youre saying the things youre saying because youre under a safety net? no, so why should it be different from the opposite opinion?
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Yikes. I suppose it is pretty easy to say such awful stuff from the safety of the internet.
because someone doesnt like the character doesn't mean theyre saying it in safety, its their opinion like its yours to like it. are we telling you that youre saying the things youre saying because youre under a safety net? no, so why should it be different from the opposite opinion?

Having an opinion (even a "hot take" style opinion) is very different when compared to actively wishing for some kind of sexual abuse case involving a specific person (celebrity or otherwise). That is taking things to a place that goes far beyond the usual "internet edgelord" thing.
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because someone doesnt like the character doesn't mean theyre saying it in safety, its their opinion like its yours to like it. are we telling you that youre saying the things youre saying because youre under a safety net? no, so why should it be different from the opposite opinion?

Having an opinion (even a "hot take" style opinion) is very different when compared to actively wishing for some kind of sexual abuse case involving a specific person (celebrity or otherwise). That is taking things to a place that goes far beyond the usual "internet edgelord" thing.
a prime example of taking life too seriously, its the internet buddy lol you dont have to grab your katana and fedora quite yet
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Having an opinion (even a "hot take" style opinion) is very different when compared to actively wishing for some kind of sexual abuse case involving a specific person (celebrity or otherwise). That is taking things to a place that goes far beyond the usual "internet edgelord" thing.
a prime example of taking life too seriously, its the internet buddy lol you dont have to grab your katana and fedora quite yet

There was a time (back in the late 90's perhaps?) where I might have agreed with you. Where things that happened online were not such an obvious reflection of how people act towards each other offline. We (as a generation) convinced ourselves that how we act online has no bearing on who we are as people. That we can abuse, wish harm towards, objectify, and even dehumanize others and it is okay because "it's the internet bro, that is just how it is".

The harsh, uncomfortable reality is that there is no real distinction between how one acts online and who they are as people offline. When you spend so much time in online communities where casual hate, abuse, and even large scale mob based bullying are the norm (especially when you are still a teenager or even a young adult), do you really think that doesn't have an influence on how you think? Do you think that doesn't have an impact on how you view people and events outside of the internet?

Don't get me wrong. I was very much in the "It's the internet, don't worry about it!" camp for a long time but as more and more people are building pretty much their entire identity and behavior habits based on the internet communities they frequent, it is now pretty much impossible for me to pretend that there isn't a negative impact and that it isn't hurting us as a culture on pretty much every possible level.

Wishing for some kind of sexual assault case to happen just because you don't like how a real person really looks is not cool, funny, or whatever. You might think it is funny and you might flippantly dismiss what that says about your own personal beliefs and behavior standards but that is just a self defense mechanism. You pass it off casually because you don't want to consider what it says about you as a person.

Sometimes a joke is just a joke but some of the more extreme corners of the internet have a tendency to turn edgy jokes and memes into things that people actually believe even when they think they are too smart to do so. When you immerse yourself in garbage, don't expect to come out smelling like roses.
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