I see they kept the same ugly, strange main character... that's unfortunate.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

Dude looks like he just finished a shift at ASDA, and got teleported a time period he's not supposed to exist in. I'm all for ugly characters, but this guy just looks odd. It's like trying to main Steven Merchant. It doesn't at all make sense for a game where I'm supposed to feel like a badass, and instead I'm playing Rowan Atkinson's slightly-less horrific brother.

[Eszrah_Plays]

No one cares gtfo.

[REhorror]

Shoo shoo, troll.

[Nailes]

Nothing wrong with the main character,

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2168260/

[Fibre🌹]

Yeah the main character is inbred (Or looks like it), so maybe that's why. Game was clunky, heavy price tag, recommend anyone getting it somewhere else ;)

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

Originally posted by Nailes:

Nothing wrong with the main character,

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2168260/

It's his expressions and how wide apart his eyes are. He wouldn't have survived in that time period. He just looks like he exists in the modern age. Again, ASDA employee turned medieval swordsman.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

I'm not kidding, it's enough reason for me not to buy the 2nd game. It's absolutely immersion breaking seeing this guy in the cut scenes.

[Vakula]

He looks less derpy than the first game, but not by much lol

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

Originally posted by Vakula:

He looks less derpy than the first game, but not by much lol

Maybe... To me, he looks even more immersion breaking in this one. I mean, he has a quiff haircut now What's all that about? 'Of course, don't we all remember from those medieval paintings where there's well-groomed men with gelled styled hair'.

The quiff can only be traced back as far as the 1950's, so why does a guy from 1403 currently look like he's just been 'round to Toni & Guy for a quick weekend glow-up before a night out on the razz?

An otherwise beautiful and engaging game is being overshadowed by the fact that I have to play as the biggest gimp.

[Nailes]

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

Originally posted by Vakula:

He looks less derpy than the first game, but not by much lol

Maybe... To me, he looks even more immersion breaking in this one. I mean, he has a quiff haircut now :tf2facepalm: What's all that about? 'Of course, don't we all remember from those medieval paintings where there's well-groomed men with gelled styled hair'.

The quiff can only be traced back as far as the 1950's, so why does a guy from 1403 currently look like he's just been 'round to Toni & Guy for a quick weekend glow-up before a night out on the razz?

An otherwise beautiful and engaging game is being overshadowed by the fact that I have to play as the biggest gimp.

People in the medieval era did actual take care of their appearance and hair. The most unrealistic may well be miners with long hair.

Properly maintained hair, sophisticated well groomed hairstyles were a sign of status. If a wealthy person did not properly take care of their hair, they'd wear a hat to cover it as it was a sign of bad hygiene.
The myth that medieval people didnt wash or only once a week and stank all day is, well... a myth.

There are plenty of illustrations, depictions and even effigies that show long(er) hairstyles, with wavy (even curly) hair. Henry's hair is fine.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

Originally posted by Nailes:

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

Maybe... To me, he looks even more immersion breaking in this one. I mean, he has a quiff haircut now What's all that about? 'Of course, don't we all remember from those medieval paintings where there's well-groomed men with gelled styled hair'.

The quiff can only be traced back as far as the 1950's, so why does a guy from 1403 currently look like he's just been 'round to Toni & Guy for a quick weekend glow-up before a night out on the razz?

An otherwise beautiful and engaging game is being overshadowed by the fact that I have to play as the biggest gimp.

People in the medieval era did actual take care of their appearance and hair. The most unrealistic may well be miners with long hair.

Properly maintained hair, sophisticated well groomed hairstyles were a sign of status. If a wealthy person did not properly take care of their hair, they'd wear a hat to cover it as it was a sign of bad hygiene.
The myth that medieval people didnt wash or only once a week and stank all day is, well... a myth.

There are plenty of illustrations, depictions and even effigies that show long(er) hairstyles, with wavy (even curly) hair. Henry's hair is fine.

I never said they didn't wash, or groom, or have preferential hair styles. I'm saying they didn't gel or quiff their hair.

If you can find me just one historically accurate illustration that shows a man from the 1400's with a quiff, I'll concede.

I'd also push back on the idea that it was a sign of bad hygiene to wear hats. In the 1400s, the most common reason to wear a hat was for religious reasons (as mentioned in the bible), but excluding that, it was actually to preserve well-kept hair from smoke, debris, lice, and to shade from the sun, as well as a fashion accessory to show what class you were in. They were almost entirely religious/practical. I've never once seen any historical context that backs that idea of hats were being used in any capacity to hide poor hygiene.

[Nailes]

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

Originally posted by Nailes:

People in the medieval era did actual take care of their appearance and hair. The most unrealistic may well be miners with long hair.

Properly maintained hair, sophisticated well groomed hairstyles were a sign of status. If a wealthy person did not properly take care of their hair, they'd wear a hat to cover it as it was a sign of bad hygiene.
The myth that medieval people didnt wash or only once a week and stank all day is, well... a myth.

There are plenty of illustrations, depictions and even effigies that show long(er) hairstyles, with wavy (even curly) hair. Henry's hair is fine.

I never said they didn't wash, or groom, or have preferential hair styles. I'm saying they didn't gel or quiff their hair.

If you can find me just one historically accurate illustration that shows a man from the 1400's with a quiff, I'll concede.

I'd also push back on the idea that it was a sign of bad hygiene to wear hats. In the 1400s, the most common reason to wear a hat was for religious reasons (as mentioned in the bible), but excluding that, it was actually to preserve well-kept hair from smoke, debris, lice, and to shade from the sun, as well as a fashion accessory to show what class you were in. They were almost entirely religious/practical. I've never once seen any historical context that backs that idea of hats were being used in any capacity to hide poor hygiene.

If your hair doesnt look good, an expensive hat replaces that function and yes, it shows the class you are in. In some cases however, it also covers up hair on 'a bad hairday'.

You keep calling it a "quiff" btw, having looked it up(english isnt my primary language), Henry doesnt even have a "quiff", his hair at the sides isnt shaved or trimmed and the hair at the front isnt worn high either. Why you think its 'gelled' is beyond me. Noone in KCD has gelled hair.
Its a well groomed practical hairstyle that was common among infantry and men at arms.

Seems you are just looking for a reason to be angry, where there is none.

[RAVEN_OF_WAR]

"I'm all for ugly characters" lol these clowns who make posts like these. No one cares what you think people buy games based on if they are going to have fun not if the character doesn't look like a certain way. I bet you hated when people said Joanna Dark looks ugly in the new perfect dark game.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

Originally posted by RAVEN_OF_WAR:

"I'm all for ugly characters" lol these clowns who make posts like these. No one cares what you think people buy games based on if they are going to have fun not if the character doesn't look like a certain way. I bet you hated when people said Joanna Dark looks ugly in the new perfect dark game.

The mere fact that discussion boards exist is in exact contrary to everything you just said. The irony.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

Originally posted by Nailes:

Originally posted by World's Strongest Man 1984:

I never said they didn't wash, or groom, or have preferential hair styles. I'm saying they didn't gel or quiff their hair.

If you can find me just one historically accurate illustration that shows a man from the 1400's with a quiff, I'll concede.

I'd also push back on the idea that it was a sign of bad hygiene to wear hats. In the 1400s, the most common reason to wear a hat was for religious reasons (as mentioned in the bible), but excluding that, it was actually to preserve well-kept hair from smoke, debris, lice, and to shade from the sun, as well as a fashion accessory to show what class you were in. They were almost entirely religious/practical. I've never once seen any historical context that backs that idea of hats were being used in any capacity to hide poor hygiene.

If your hair doesnt look good, an expensive hat replaces that function and yes, it shows the class you are in. In some cases however, it also covers up hair on 'a bad hairday'.

You keep calling it a "quiff" btw, having looked it up(english isnt my primary language), Henry doesnt even have a "quiff", his hair at the sides isnt shaved or trimmed and the hair at the front isnt worn high either. Why you think its 'gelled' is beyond me. Noone in KCD has gelled hair.
Its a well groomed practical hairstyle that was common among infantry and men at arms.

Seems you are just looking for a reason to be angry, where there is none.

Again, if we're being historically accurate, there's no historical context that proves that it was worn to disguise bad hygiene. That's my point. You're just guessing at a perceived use because it could've happened, rather than because it did. Realistically, fishing line can be sewn into clothing, but just because it can doesn't mean it's now a historically accurate fact that it happened.

There's also no prerequisite for a "quiff" to be shaved on the sides. It almost never looks that way unless it's been freshly cut. Once it's grown, it looks exactly as Henry has it here. I suggest it looks gelled, because quiffs are gelled. Hair doesn't usually float above the top of your scalp in an unnatural shape unless it's been positioned there by a substance.

All I'm asking for, is for you to share where you're getting this information from. It sounds like you're making it up, off the top of your head (no pun intended). Again, I'll happily accept any historically accurate source that claims quiffs were "common among infantry and men at arms" from that time period. There's no question that it was certainly used for that in the post-ww2 era, you know, after it was created. If it was so common, this should be incredibly easy for you :)

Nobody is angry, unless you are? I'm not upset at anyone, I'm simply just telling you you're wrong.

[World's Strongest Man 1984]

In fact, after looking at the screenshots of the game, I'm really going to push back that it's not a quiff, it absolutely is. Less hair on the sides (which means it's shaved at the time of cutting like a quiff would be), hair standing up on the top, several inches in length and pushed back and to the side, with a side parting. It literally has every prerequisite of that haircut. I'd challenge any barber from the modern age to call that anything but a quiff/pompadour (although pompadour's a much more tightly groomed). I'm saying this too, as someone that literally gets this haircut at the barbers.

Edit: Right, the first image (after the videos) is identical to almost every "quiff" that comes up on Google images. Although being a minor point in my original claim, it's not even up for debate, you're just objectively wrong about this aspect.