Persuasion Glitch?

[Davey Bones Locker]

I haven't passed a single persuasion check since last months update. Doesn't matter if it's green, if I have boosts to it, or the fact that I've leveled up my persuasion twice. I can't pass anything. Has anyone else encountered this? If so, were you able to fix it?

[titanopteryx]

I've passed persuasion checks but I've maxed the related skill. You can get a boost from the apparel merchant on the bottom floor of Ryujin tower who sells suits and a neurocom III which help with that. The suits you buy add 5% to success chence. Doing the Ryujin questline will at one point during it give you a suit that adds 10% chance. The neurocom III adds 15% success chance to diplomacy. I'm not 100% sure that that means persuasion but he's the same merchant that sells the persuasion suits.

Putting points into the Manipulation skill adds a option sometimes when persuading that adds a big amount of progress if it succeeds.

[Davey Bones Locker]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

I've passed persuasion checks but I've maxed the related skill. You can get a boost from the apparel merchant on the bottom floor of Ryujin tower who sells suits and a neurocom III which help with that. The suits you buy add 5% to success chence. Doing the Ryujin questline will at one point during it give you a suit that adds 10% chance. The neurocom III adds 15% success chance to diplomacy. I'm not 100% sure that that means persuasion but he's the same merchant that sells the persuasion suits.

Putting points into the Manipulation skill adds a option sometimes when persuading that adds a big amount of progress if it succeeds.

I've used the buffs like clothing and and alcohol and leveled up the skill twice (Back when it was still working properly), absolutely no difference. At some point, I just started failing every single speech check no matter how easy it was. Not talking simply not being able to fill the bar up, it's not getting a single speech check to pass with dozens of attempts

[titanopteryx]

Do you use mods? Because I wasn't using any mods when I was leveling up the skill. I wasn't using mods until creations came out and only use 4 creations I think.

[Neo]

Are you playing the persuasion mini game properly or just pressing random dialog? I only ask because my dumb dumb brain took awhile to work out the mini game.

[Davey Bones Locker]

Wasn't using mods when this first started happening. And yeah I know the minigame, it was working flawlessly for the first 30 or so hours, and now I haven't passed a single check in a month. Not even one bar.

[Neo]

Originally posted by Davey Bones Locker:

Wasn't using mods when this first started happening. And yeah I know the minigame, it was working flawlessly for the first 30 or so hours, and now I haven't passed a single check in a month. Not even one bar.

That's really odd. Either you've been incredibly unlucky or it's bugged somehow.

Do you have any addiction or negative debuff which is making you less charismatic?

[Davey Bones Locker]

Originally posted by Neo:

Originally posted by Davey Bones Locker:

Wasn't using mods when this first started happening. And yeah I know the minigame, it was working flawlessly for the first 30 or so hours, and now I haven't passed a single check in a month. Not even one bar.

That's really odd. Either you've been incredibly unlucky or it's bugged somehow.

Do you have any addiction or negative debuff which is making you less charismatic?

No addictions, not seeing any debuffs. I have to assume it's a glitch because failing the easiest skill checks dozens of times in a row with no variation would be statistically bonkers. Verifying files didn't change anything, trying a full re-install and if that doesn't work I'll see if it applies to a new character. I'd absolutely hate to lose 50 hours of progress to a skill glitch though

[Davey Bones Locker]

FIXED IT! For whatever reason my modifier flipped from a default 1.0 base stat for persuasion chance to 0, so every skill check was modifying the chance by multiplying it by 0, there was no shot at success. I used player.getav 2d873b in the console commands to see this modifier and adjusted it with player.setav 2d873b 2. Since it's subtracting one (for no known listed reason) that actually sets the modifier to it's default 1.0 state (Confirmed with player.getav 2d873b). Working as normal now

[Neo]

Originally posted by Davey Bones Locker:

FIXED IT! For whatever reason my modifier flipped from a default 1.0 base stat for persuasion chance to 0, so every skill check was modifying the chance by multiplying it by 0, there was no shot at success. I used player.getav 2d873b in the console commands to see this modifier and adjusted it with player.setav 2d873b 2. Since it's subtracting one (for no known listed reason) that actually sets the modifier to it's default 1.0 state (Confirmed with player.getav 2d873b). Working as normal now

Glad to hear it's fixed.

[Mybabybootyhands]

I had the same problem. Mine was set at -0.60. I was wondering why I could only pass with a critical success.

[Arcion Holy Windmaster]

honestly they need to not make the console command to fix it cheating , they are the ones that broke it, so us fixing it shouldnt be punished for using it, so like what the heck