Starfield is not a space game----

[Fast]

Space is a consequence of moving between locations.
It is a game about doing fetch quests and talking to annoying companions and random people you dont care about, to level up, to become so strong you trivialise the game, and then have people tell you , you went to fast, you rushed, you didnt do all the things.

"But but...ship combat!!" ahh yes, the stat stick minigame in a tiny zone where you can just put bigger number on your ship and stop caring. The only reason it exists is to fast travel ...and allow you to move between planets and zones.

The reality is its a hugely flawed game lacking in every department.

[MrSoul]

That’s good and all, but how fast can you beat tactician mode in bg3 with one character?

[Schlumpsha]

Fly more. Lots of sidequests to be found up in space.

[Ngoc]

You have no clue as much as you had no clue about bg3 stop rushing game maybe you will start understanding them

[Fast]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

That’s good and all, but how fast can you beat tactician mode in bg3 with one character?

14 hours like properly. literally did it. you can always do one of the many exploitative speed run strats.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Fly more. Lots of sidequests to be found up in space.

ive seen them all, travelling to all star systems and landing 100+ planets lets you see them all basically.
Outside of a few specific ones most are just repeatables.

[Varanus]

Its a standard Besthesda game, that happens to take place in space. If anyone expected anything other than that, thats on them. XD

[['w']]

Fast is on Speed again.

The let's craft 3mio knives and call it a day gameplay.

[Sem56]

yeah agreed, it's a fine game which I'll happily play through but there are some serious missed opportunities with using the space theme

you could kind of see it coming though? when you put almost real travel distances in space in a game people are obviously just going to fast travel all the time instead of spending hours travelling

but the big miss for me is being able to fly around on planets, land and dock yourself

[76561198292722533]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

That’s good and all, but how fast can you beat tactician mode in bg3 with one character?

??? How fast you can drink 3 whyskey bottles? Very fast I bet. :-)

That said to answer your question I remind it's about 11mn the speedrun record, but with one of the less good ends.

[DtHouse]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Fly more. Lots of sidequests to be found up in space.

ive seen them all, travelling to all star systems and landing 100+ planets lets you see them all basically.
Outside of a few specific ones most are just repeatables.

Well you have completed the game, GG. Now can you simply go ahed and go boring some other community ? Thx

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Fast:

Space is a consequence of moving between locations.
It is a game about doing fetch quests and talking to annoying companions and random people you dont care about, to level up, to become so strong you trivialise the game, and then have people tell you , you went to fast, you rushed, you didnt do all the things.

"But but...ship combat!!" ahh yes, the stat stick minigame in a tiny zone where you can just put bigger number on your ship and stop caring. The only reason it exists is to fast travel ...and allow you to move between planets and zones.

The reality is its a hugely flawed game lacking in every department.

Space ships would probably behave more like submarines than fighter jets in the future. In fact the aerodynamic fighter jets you see in a lot of space games are kinda poorly thought out. The point is most space games aren't space games either.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Sem56:

yeah agreed, it's a fine game which I'll happily play through but there are some serious missed opportunities with using the space theme

you could kind of see it coming though? when you put almost real travel distances in space in a game people are obviously just going to fast travel all the time instead of spending hours travelling

but the big miss for me is being able to fly around on planets, land and dock yourself

I think the way they sold the game and marketed it made it seem as though space was a feature of the game and would be a large part of the game proper.
Its more of a means to an end that doesnt really offer much, if you think about it.
They could have stuck the entire games stuff on a single planet scrapped space and there wouldnt really be much difference to gameplay if they included the simulator (with more stuff) and just had you traverse a single planet.
It feels like space was used to widen the audience whilst really, its just a consequence of the travel system and they wanted to be able to say look how much planets we made.

[Artur]

Originally posted by Sem56:

but the big miss for me is being able to fly around on planets, land and dock yourself

+

[Sem56]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by Sem56:

yeah agreed, it's a fine game which I'll happily play through but there are some serious missed opportunities with using the space theme

you could kind of see it coming though? when you put almost real travel distances in space in a game people are obviously just going to fast travel all the time instead of spending hours travelling

but the big miss for me is being able to fly around on planets, land and dock yourself

I think the way they sold the game and marketed it made it seem as though space was a feature of the game and would be a large part of the game proper.
Its more of a means to an end that doesnt really offer much, if you think about it.
They could have stuck the entire games stuff on a single planet scrapped space and there wouldnt really be much difference to gameplay if they included the simulator (with more stuff) and just had you traverse a single planet.
It feels like space was used to widen the audience whilst really, its just a consequence of the travel system and they wanted to be able to say look how much planets we made.

yep, pretty much this

taking red dead for example that's a game where i enjoy doing the long haul between locations because there are things to see... people to run into... random events that can occur

there's none of that in starfield so you just fast travel between each A and B for every quest so it makes the game a bit dull and chore like

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

That’s good and all, but how fast can you beat tactician mode in bg3 with one character?

U can't