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Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:35pm

Procedurally Generated Npcs

Does anyone know if they will have this? that would be sick

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Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Originally posted by Kc:
Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:
IF it follows the prebious games what we will have (When it generates a Random NPC, say Pirate or Soldier, or Cult Member) is it will spawn one of the Possible "Template" NPCs.

If you want to see how this works. Open the Console and type Help Bandit or Help Gunner and you will see a list of Actors (and other things with the keyword in them). Everyone of those actors is a Template type and can be spawned if the list has them in it.

I expect the same here.

I don't think Procedurally generateing the NPCs works out because if you add the Cosmetics (Makeup and Different Colors Make up) you get weird results. Green Hair, Purple Eye Shadow and Creme colored Lipstic. Its just too freaky. Easier to just do the Templates.
uhhh its gonna be in the game tho they said it in the live- and i asked in official discord server it was confirmed that Procedurally Generated Npcs will be in the game wether yall like it or not lol

I don't really know what you think Proceedurally Generated means in the NPC context (or in general). It COULD work with NPCs if you tightly define the Variables to restrict ranges to within believable Borders. But if you give the RANDOM access to the entire range you start getting oddities.

At the end of the day, we won't know for another couple weeks. Like I said, based on earlier games they usually had Templates. I don't think its far fetched with their new system that they could code it to vary features to get more unique Spawned Enemies. In fact I would welcome it.

Edit: Here let me give you an example. Baldurs Gate 3. Pick Random Appearence. Do it at least 10 times. I guarantee you will see some Odd looking Characters that would make a Ringling Brothers Circus Clown cringe.

Edit2: Do they still have the Circus? It's like when I read about something involving a Mall, I am surprised they are still around. I don't get out much.

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HeyYou

(Banned) Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:38pm

Nope. Won't have 'em.

Daedrius

Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:38pm

Sort of. They said all the NPCs, aside from main story types, are all generated in the character creator... I think. Pretty sure they said something like that in the deep dive.

Okay, they just say they use the character creator to make all the characters in the game.

Last edited by Daedrius; Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:48pm

-={LG}=- Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:39pm

Can't check off all the right boxes if you do that.

Jonah Falcon Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:42pm

You know, I saw a let's play of Shadows of Doubt, so I might check that out.

A. Silvermane has Starfield

Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:47pm

Its a shame really. Remember early NMS creatures? Imagine that but with NPCs, the abominations it'd produce would be gloarious.

Jonah Falcon Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:48pm

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:
Its a shame really. Remember early NMS creatures? Imagine that but with NPCs, the abominations it'd produce would be gloarious.

Glad you've already played Starfield.

Daedrius

Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:49pm

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:
Its a shame really. Remember early NMS creatures? Imagine that but with NPCs, the abominations it'd produce would be gloarious.

Arms for eyeballs...

kdodds

Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:07pm

The *only* thing preventing them from being able to do this is they would have to use generic voiced lines OR use AI voice generation. They already do it in Fallout when generating Settlers. The only thing lacking then would be a name list, which is no biggie really. 1000 first names each male, female, neutral, and 1000 last names that's a million names each for male, female and neutral. At that point, no worries if there are repeats.

Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:14pm

i asked in the server and yes they will have Procedurally Generated Npcs

Deadoon

Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:25pm

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:
Its a shame really. Remember early NMS creatures? Imagine that but with NPCs, the abominations it'd produce would be gloarious.

Jurassic park kazoo came to mind.

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Ihateeverybody has Starfield

Aug 14, 2023 @ 8:27pm

IF it follows the prebious games what we will have (When it generates a Random NPC, say Pirate or Soldier, or Cult Member) is it will spawn one of the Possible "Template" NPCs.

If you want to see how this works. Open the Console and type Help Bandit or Help Gunner and you will see a list of Actors (and other things with the keyword in them). Everyone of those actors is a Template type and can be spawned if the list has them in it.

I expect the same here.

I don't think Procedurally generateing the NPCs works out because if you add the Cosmetics (Makeup and Different Colors Make up) you get weird results. Green Hair, Purple Eye Shadow and Creme colored Lipstic. Its just too freaky. Easier to just do the Templates.

#11

Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:35pm

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:
IF it follows the prebious games what we will have (When it generates a Random NPC, say Pirate or Soldier, or Cult Member) is it will spawn one of the Possible "Template" NPCs.

If you want to see how this works. Open the Console and type Help Bandit or Help Gunner and you will see a list of Actors (and other things with the keyword in them). Everyone of those actors is a Template type and can be spawned if the list has them in it.

I expect the same here.

I don't think Procedurally generateing the NPCs works out because if you add the Cosmetics (Makeup and Different Colors Make up) you get weird results. Green Hair, Purple Eye Shadow and Creme colored Lipstic. Its just too freaky. Easier to just do the Templates.

uhhh its gonna be in the game tho they said it in the live- and i asked in official discord server it was confirmed that Procedurally Generated Npcs will be in the game wether yall like it or not lol

Last edited by Kc; Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:36pm

#12

-={LG}=- Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:39pm

Originally posted by Kc:
i asked in official discord server

So some rando in the discord told you "trust me, bro?"

#13

Aug 14, 2023 @ 9:46pm

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:
Originally posted by Kc:
i asked in official discord server

So some rando in the discord told you "trust me, bro?"

are u good i said in their live they mentioned it too-

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