morrowind and starfield is the best two bethesda games

[Master myst eversong]

end of story

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

In terms of their open world RPGs, my personal tastes run: Morrowind > Skyrim > Starfield > FO3 > Oblivion > Daggerfall > Arena > FO4.

Which is to say, Starfield is neither my favorite nor my least favorite Bethesda RPG. Some will consider it anathema for me to place Starfield and FO3 over Oblivion, but I just wasn't a fan of Oblivion's bright, shiny, western "knights and castles" fantasy visual design personally. But I love all of them in their own ways (and for their own times.)

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser:

Morrowind > Skyrim > Starfield > FO3 > Oblivion > Daggerfall > Arena > FO4.

Debatable...

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

Originally posted by Just Chill:

Originally posted by Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser:

Morrowind > Skyrim > Starfield > FO3 > Oblivion > Daggerfall > Arena > FO4.

Debatable...

Of course, everyone's tastes differ. Which is why I qualified it with, "my personal tastes run: "

[Just Chill]

Yeah...
For me, the roleplay aspect in character leveling is awful in Skyrim.

3 attributes: Health, Stamina, Magicka.

These are core attributes in Oblivion, which get calculated by the actual attributes.
Strength, Intelligence, Willpower, Agility, Endurance, Personality and Luck.
There have been hardcoded perks already available for each skill that got unlocked at 25, 50, 75 and 100.
(Like for Acrobatics you have been able to jump over water when raised to 100).

I get that the animations and graphics are better, but still...
Guess I had invested too much time into Oblivion, so I wasn't able to fully enjoy Skyrim anymore and look over the fact that it got dumbed down.


I even missed the repair-aspect of gear. :(

[Berserk Slayer]

Normie take on my part, but for me Skyrim is the best Bethesda RPG at the moment. Starfield is jostling for second place with FO3 and will probably win it once updates, mods and expansions are in place. Maybe 10 years from now it will be in first place, but I'm not sure their other IPs will ever beat TES. Third is Oblivion. The much older games are their own thing and I won't list them.

[Darth Revan]

The best BGS game to this date is still morrowind if you ask me

[Mick Savage]

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

The best BGS game to this date is still morrowind if you ask me

Loved Morrowind!

[Master myst eversong]

Originally posted by Mick Salvage:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

The best BGS game to this date is still morrowind if you ask me

Loved Morrowind!

you can play it now in vr...open morrowind,its awsome on oculus

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

The best BGS game to this date is still morrowind if you ask me

Agreed.

I sort of started with Oblivion unfortunately, so this game has the most nostalgy effect of every BGS game on me.

However, when I would have started with Morrowind I possibly would have realized in Oblivion already that Bethesda dumbs their games down.

Morrowind has even more skills and attributes than Oblivion.

[Master myst eversong]

Oblivion pissed me of..........bad game

[Just Chill]

Can you elaborate?

[Master myst eversong]

you could not get lost

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

Morrowind I just wanted to live in. And still do lol. If that ever gets a remaster (and I still play it modded sometimes) I will never leave probably.

Oblivion, while not my favorite just owing to its setting and visual design (just not my taste) will still live in my heart and memory forever because of moments like: "A knight errant! That's a real special kinda knight!" 😂 I loved that game's sense of whimsy.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Master myst eversong:

you could not get lost

That's true. Despite I would call it a weird aspect to dislike a game, the quest marker was a thing. ^^


I somewhat enjoyed reading books in Morrowind and get subtle hints about where to go. Felt a lot like Myst / Riven.

[wyodinosaur]

Morrowind is one of my all-time favourite games. For one thing, I liked how you actually had to read things to further your progress. It would please me to no end if they remade it with the graphics available today.