Question : Is upgrading FRONTIER at early levels not necessary ?

[dprijadi]

I Was following a guide to upgrade FRONTIER at lv7 with cost about 40 (w/ commerce skill 2) , putting partible beam 4 , bigger reactor and grav drive , more habs for crew+ and 2 additional engines

on my 3rd fight in some random system (not far from jamison) i got attack by some ships and i destroyed 2 (particle beam killed the enem faster than i can damage the engines) and boarder the last one , a class B ship

since i got a class B driving license i captured it and registered in space (for 21k) and now i am using it since it have better cargo than my upgraded frontier except for PB weapons which i added soon..

so upgrading FRONTIER at early level (except for adding CARGO room) seem rather pointless ?

TRUE OR FALSE ?

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by dprijadi:

I Was following a guide to upgrade FRONTIER at lv7 with cost about 40 (w/ commerce skill 2) , putting partible beam 4 , bigger reactor and grav drive , more habs for crew+ and 2 additional engines

on my 3rd fight in some random system (not far from jamison) i got attack by some ships and i destroyed 2 (particle beam killed the enem faster than i can damage the engines) and boarder the last one , a class B ship

since i got a class B driving license i captured it and registered in space (for 21k) and now i am using it since it have better cargo than my upgraded frontier except for PB weapons which i added soon..

so upgrading FRONTIER at early level (except for adding CARGO room) seem rather pointless ?

TRUE OR FALSE ?

It never is really. The weapons are the key. A combination of two or more will handle anything. The only real reason to upgrade the Frontier is for more hard points thus more weapons.

[kdodds]

The Frontier is REALLY small. It doesn't really pay to upgrade, especially since you should encounter better ships just through normal questing. I'l resist spoilers.

[dprijadi]

Originally posted by kdodds:

The Frontier is REALLY small. It doesn't really pay to upgrade, especially since you should encounter better ships just through normal questing. I'l resist spoilers.

i got the secret outpost quest but the planet is highlited in RED when i tried to go there usign my class B ship... red means it is unreachable for my current ship ?

but yes i AGREE with your statement , making frontier a cargo hauler with 2000+ cargo space and 4 Particle beam and upgraded reactor+hab+grav make it slow like fat cow..

please DM me for your spoilers , i dont mind spoilers

[kdodds]

Originally posted by dprijadi:

Originally posted by kdodds:

The Frontier is REALLY small. It doesn't really pay to upgrade, especially since you should encounter better ships just through normal questing. I'l resist spoilers.

i got the secret outpost quest but the planet is highlited in RED when i tried to go there usign my class B ship... red means it is unreachable for my current ship ?

but yes i AGREE with your statement , making frontier a cargo hauler with 2000+ cargo space and 4 Particle beam and upgraded reactor+hab+grav make it slow like fat cow..

please DM me for your spoilers , i dont mind spoilers

You already know where you have to go, you just mentioned it. You can also do the Akila Rangers' questline or just the main quest, but that's a bit far on.

[Mork]

I generally just put 1 extra companion hab to put 2 cargo containers on the Frontier and that's it.

I instead try to save 130k credits to buy a War Horse at Neon. Its a A class ship with a 28 power reactor... After that, i'm gonna spend around 50-100k to make a really good A class ship that gonna last for a very long time.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352712508
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352712624

Building ships is one of the thing i like the most about this game...

[Vlad 254]

I always upgrade the Frontier and it upgrades nicely. Sure when i first started playing i skipped right over upgrading it because you can get the Razorleaf shortly after, then the Star Eagle. But on my next playthrough I started upgrading all 3 of those ships and they were extrememly powerful. Of course you build your own which I always do and nothing is better than building your own.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by dprijadi:

I Was following a guide to upgrade FRONTIER at lv7 with cost about 40 (w/ commerce skill 2) , putting partible beam 4 , bigger reactor and grav drive , more habs for crew+ and 2 additional engines

on my 3rd fight in some random system (not far from jamison) i got attack by some ships and i destroyed 2 (particle beam killed the enem faster than i can damage the engines) and boarder the last one , a class B ship

since i got a class B driving license i captured it and registered in space (for 21k) and now i am using it since it have better cargo than my upgraded frontier except for PB weapons which i added soon..

so upgrading FRONTIER at early level (except for adding CARGO room) seem rather pointless ?

TRUE OR FALSE ?

But, to add to what i said in my previous post - nothing you do is pointless in this game when it comes to your ships, not if you don't think it was.

[tkwoods]

I never bother upgrading the Frontier. It's to easy to get better ships, free. Like the Razor Leaf

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by tkwoods:

I never bother upgrading the Frontier. It's to easy to get better ships, free. Like the Razor Leaf

agreed, yes it is. I simply enjoy doing so. Lots of choices that's for sure.

[Berserk Slayer]

I prefer to capture ships early on as you will usually get a better platform to upgrade ie reactor/engines plus 100% of your money left for upgrades to cargo, weapons etc

[dprijadi]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

Originally posted by tkwoods:

I never bother upgrading the Frontier. It's to easy to get better ships, free. Like the Razor Leaf

agreed, yes it is. I simply enjoy doing so. Lots of choices that's for sure.

agreed on your posts here and on the above reply to my original posts.

yes , it is the player's own choice and preference that is so FUN in this game

i can go with FRONTER Unmodded , board and capture better ship and registered it

or

i can go with simple +crew hab and +cargo mudles for the cheap for hauling misisons from Trade authority quest

or like i did now play around with ship mode for the first time , spending HOURS on the ship builder and then making the most ridiculously overpowered overcargocapacity over weaponzed ship that good at combat but so slow it is like a turtle lol

thanks vlad !!

[dprijadi]

Originally posted by Mork:

I generally just put 1 extra companion hab to put 2 cargo containers on the Frontier and that's it.

I instead try to save 130k credits to buy a War Horse at Neon. Its a A class ship with a 28 power reactor... After that, i'm gonna spend around 50-100k to make a really good A class ship that gonna last for a very long time.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352712508
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3352712624

Building ships is one of the thing i like the most about this game...

this is good TIP for newbie !! THANKS

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by dprijadi:

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

agreed, yes it is. I simply enjoy doing so. Lots of choices that's for sure.

agreed on your posts here and on the above reply to my original posts.

yes , it is the player's own choice and preference that is so FUN in this game

i can go with FRONTER Unmodded , board and capture better ship and registered it

or

i can go with simple +crew hab and +cargo mudles for the cheap for hauling misisons from Trade authority quest

or like i did now play around with ship mode for the first time , spending HOURS on the ship builder and then making the most ridiculously overpowered overcargocapacity over weaponzed ship that good at combat but so slow it is like a turtle lol

thanks vlad !!

Yeah this game is endless choices, lots of fun, great planet exploration as well, which btw surveying those planets is something I enjoy when i want a break from dogfights or ground battles, or ship or outpost building. Glad you're enjoying....

[Liquid Inc]

i usually run from all fights, sticking all power to grav drive with the Frontier.
The Frontier's too small to modify, and lacking most features (It can't for instance, have a bed + a workshop since it's only got space for 1 1x2 hab... and placing a weapon workbench down in build mode is awkward; plus there's no space for the other workbenches)

ofcourse you can expand it, but you'll find your camera glitches out every load of the game if you make it too *long* (Until you modify the ship again, anyway. This is due to the camera resetting every time you quit the game.)

That's why whenever i want to build a ship, i buy (or capture/steal) one that is the full 80m long, and use that as a base. This way I don't come back the next day to find the camera stuck up it's backside.
It's difficult to fly when you can't see anything.........

[dprijadi]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

i usually run from all fights, sticking all power to grav drive with the Frontier.
The Frontier's too small to modify, and lacking most features (It can't for instance, have a bed + a workshop since it's only got space for 1 1x2 hab... and placing a weapon workbench down in build mode is awkward; plus there's no space for the other workbenches)

ofcourse you can expand it, but you'll find your camera glitches out every load of the game if you make it too *long* (Until you modify the ship again, anyway. This is due to the camera resetting every time you quit the game.)

That's why whenever i want to build a ship, i buy (or capture/steal) one that is the full 80m long, and use that as a base. This way I don't come back the next day to find the camera stuck up it's backside.
It's difficult to fly when you can't see anything.........

i dont know there's this bug.. was thinking of making a funny frontier build with 3 habs one behind the other .. thank gudnes i dont commit this lol