So the paid Vulture Quest (7 bucks) length is.. 15 minutes if you skip the walking/fast travel between the objectives.

[Dreambox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5aWdSmRbBI

This guy just uploaded the paid quest, the video skip all the walking in the wild parts to just focus on the quest itself, and only last 15 minutes... Which is ~1€/$ for every two minutes of gameplay.. Thanks Bethesda, I guess..

[kdodds]

You're being completely disingenuous here. First, you automatically receive 1,000 credits. The purchase price is 700 credits. So, it costs you nothing. Second, it adds a Tracker's Alliance HQ to Akila City. You know in Cydonia (or you probably don't, actually) when you meet the TA agent who sends you on a short mission? Yeah. After that you're only connected to them through the kiosks. This makes them real. They have agents that will approach you. And so on. It's not as much a mission as it is the addition of the TA HQ. For RPing purposes, it's an awesome add on. Third, as with all incessant gripers, welcome to the block bin. Hopefully you don't need my help in the future.

[savageone]

Originally posted by ƬᗩԲԲվ:

Paid missions in a game that is bare bones af. What an utter disgrace. Starfield deserves every bit of criticism and more.

I can hardly believe it as well. A concerned Developer would try to fix some of the glaring issues within their product. Bethesda Corp. is just shooting for more sales with little concern for it's customer base. We will see how it plays out. Maybe they can turn this IP around from the downhill slide that it continues with. What a blunder they have made (again).

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by kdodds:

You're being completely disingenuous here. First, you automatically receive 1,000 credits. The purchase price is 700 credits. So, it costs you nothing.

Did you get the premium package for free? If not then it most certainly costs real money

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

Originally posted by kdodds:

You're being completely disingenuous here. First, you automatically receive 1,000 credits. The purchase price is 700 credits. So, it costs you nothing.

Did you get the premium package for free? If not then it most certainly costs real money

the premium package is the DLC+some skins, so yeah the 1000 credits were not included in that purchase and therefore "free".

From my perspective, if you're having enough fun in SF to consider adding paid mods, then you should be interested in purchasing the DLC ANYWAY.

If the game doesnt hold your interest why would you even think about the CC quests.

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Emphoise:

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

Did you get the premium package for free? If not then it most certainly costs real money

the premium package is the DLC+some skins, so yeah the 1000 credits were not included in that purchase and therefore "free".

From your prespective those who didn't purchase the premium package also received 1,000 Con Club Credits?

[Mortal_Kasi]

I think the problem here is that there will be more then one Mission you have to buy after the vulture thing right?

I would be cool with it if the whole package where about 10 Bucks so that you can get everything for the free 1000 Credits we are getting with the Premium Package.

Do we even know how many Missions are planned?

Also i never used Payed Creation Club Stuff, how many Credits do i get for 5 Bucks?

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

Originally posted by Emphoise:

the premium package is the DLC+some skins, so yeah the 1000 credits were not included in that purchase and therefore "free".

From your prespective those who didn't purchase the premium package also received 1,000 Con Club Credits?

No, from my perspective and by any account of reality the 1000 credits are a free item coming with the premium edition purchase

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Mortal_Kasi:

I think the problem here is that there will be more then one Mission you have to buy after the vulture thing right?

I would be cool with it if the whole package where about 10 Bucks so that you can get everything for the free 1000 Credits we are getting with the Premium Package.

Do we even know how many Missions are planned?

Also i never used Payed Creation Club Stuff, how many Credits do i get for 5 Bucks?

You don't have to buy those missions at all to enjoy your game. The trackers alliance missions and faction present in the BASE game are self sufficient.

[ƬᗩԲԲվ]

Originally posted by savageone:

I can hardly believe it as well. A concerned Developer would try to fix some of the glaring issues within their product. Bethesda Corp. is just shooting for more sales with little concern for it's customer base. We will see how it plays out. Maybe they can turn this IP around from the downhill slide that it continues with. What a blunder they have made (again).

If the game was finished it wouldn't be a big deal.

Bethesda basically: We don't have DLC for the people who paid 100$. But if you want to give us more money we did make some quests that's totally not DLC.

[Diernayr]

So another cash grab out of the gate. They somehow made horse armor seem reasonable.

$7 for 15 mins of gameplay???? Lol

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Emphoise:

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

From your prespective those who didn't purchase the premium package also received 1,000 Con Club Credits?

No, from my perspective and by any account of reality the 1000 credits are a free item coming with the premium edition purchase

I think I see the issue here and it's not with the title

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by ƬᗩԲԲվ:

Originally posted by savageone:

I can hardly believe it as well. A concerned Developer would try to fix some of the glaring issues within their product. Bethesda Corp. is just shooting for more sales with little concern for it's customer base. We will see how it plays out. Maybe they can turn this IP around from the downhill slide that it continues with. What a blunder they have made (again).

If the game was finished it wouldn't be a big deal.

Bethesda basically: We don't have DLC for the people who paid 100$. But if you want to give us more money we did make some quests that's totally not DLC.

your narrative instantly fails because there is a complete self sufficient quest and faction coming to the base game for FREE in the last update.

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

Originally posted by Emphoise:

No, from my perspective and by any account of reality the 1000 credits are a free item coming with the premium edition purchase

I think I see the issue here and it's not with the title

You paid for a DLC and some skins. The 1000 credits were NOT in the purchase.

Therefore, they are a gifted (free) item.

[[PC]Roco45]

Originally posted by kdodds:

You're being completely disingenuous here. First, you automatically receive 1,000 credits. The purchase price is 700 credits. So, it costs you nothing. Second, it adds a Tracker's Alliance HQ to Akila City. You know in Cydonia (or you probably don't, actually) when you meet the TA agent who sends you on a short mission? Yeah. After that you're only connected to them through the kiosks. This makes them real. They have agents that will approach you. And so on. It's not as much a mission as it is the addition of the TA HQ. For RPing purposes, it's an awesome add on. Third, as with all incessant gripers, welcome to the block bin. Hopefully you don't need my help in the future.

All this does is highlight that this was cut content. Anyone who played that half assed 3 minute Trackers Alliance mission on Mars knows that it abruptly ends and clearly was cut content.

Now we have paid episodic Trackers Alliance quests like this is some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ live service game and they don't even utilize the Brigs on our ship because Bethesda is too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lazy to flesh out a game mechanic.

A mod without the CK was able to make Brigs somewhat functional. Bethesda couldn't even put a modicum of effort into at the very least adding paid Trackers Alliance quests that functionally complete a gameplay loop and do something different. There is no roleplaying here, it's not immersive. Neutralizing someone and then leaving them there for someone else to pickup is the opposite of roleplaying and immersive.

It's all pathetic. Same with people that support this donkey show.

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Emphoise:

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

I think I see the issue here and it's not with the title

You paid for a DLC and some skins. The 1000 credits were NOT in the purchase.

Therefore, they are a gifted (free) item.

Originally posted by Wrinkly:

Originally posted by Emphoise:

No, from my perspective and by any account of reality the 1000 credits are a free item coming with the premium edition purchase

I think I see the issue here and it's not with the title