Andreja and Sarah together...

[Michael_v_Anken]

Hello community,

the problem in brief:

The plan was and is to marry Sarah and Andreja.

First I got Sarah's approval to around 1200 and triggered her quest and then we were together. There was also a dialogue option about marriage. I didn't choose this one because I then switched to Andreja and also brought her approval ratings to a high level. I completed her quest and wanted to be with her too. She didn't want that... So I went to Sarah, broke up with her, got involved with Andreja and minutes later with Sarah again. Andreja was angry and never wanted to see me again. Using persuasion, she calmed down and one minute we continued our relationship. After a few hours we got married. So far so good, now I wanted to marry Sarah too (she doesn't care about an open relationship). Unfortunately, no quest option triggers anymore, even after a few hours of playing with her.

Now I'm wondering if I triggered this event with her many hours ago and permanently interrupted this quest by separating the minutes for Andreja.

Does anyone know a console command to trigger the marriage quest with Sarah?

Thanks to everyone in advance. ;)

[בתאניה]

Guess you broke the game, time to start over.

[wtiger27]

You can't have them both. Andreja makes this clear in your dialog with her. Using the console for something like that, can really mess up your game.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

You can't have them both. Andreja makes this clear in your dialog with her. Using the console for something like that, can really mess up your game.

Yes you actually can have them both without using console commands at all.

If you romance Andreja first, take her to marriage, then go for Sarah, at the point that Andreja gets upset you have the opportunity to talk to her. A successful [Persuade] check at that point allows you to smooth things over with Andreja and continue to also romance Sarah.

You can marry them both, all it takes is a successful persuasion.

OP's mistake is that he romanced Sarah first, and then didn't even finish it all the way to marriage. There's no way to recover from that without console commands, I don't believe. But if he had started with Andreja in the first place, it would have worked fine for him.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

You can't have them both. Andreja makes this clear in your dialog with her. Using the console for something like that, can really mess up your game.

Yes you actually can have them both without using console commands at all.

If you romance Andreja first, take her to marriage, then go for Sarah, at the point that Andreja gets upset you have the opportunity to talk to her. A successful [Persuade] check at that point allows you to smooth things over with Andreja and continue to also romance Sarah.

You can marry them both, all it takes is a successful persuasion.

Well, if that is what the player wants. Just sounds dumb to me. And of course, goes against my RPG standards. But each to his own.

[kdodds]

What wtiger27 said... totally against RP aspects, even if I'd attempt it, I'd leave it organic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef9QnZVpVd8

[Six of Saturn]

Polygamy is cringe.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by kdodds:

What wtiger27 said... totally against RP aspects, even if I'd attempt it, I'd leave it organic...

That's a nonsensical premise from both of you. What if someone is RP'ing a person who doesn't have hang-ups about that sort of thing?
It's only against your own choice for RP, not against RP'ing itself.

[grendolin1960]

There is a "Dig" Mod on Nexus

[alanc9]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Originally posted by kdodds:

What wtiger27 said... totally against RP aspects, even if I'd attempt it, I'd leave it organic...

That's a nonsensical premise from both of you. What if someone is RP'ing a person who doesn't have hang-ups about that sort of thing?
It's only against your own choice for RP, not against RP'ing itself.

Well, I'm not a huge fan of every NPC being a Persuasion check away from being poly. But with only 4 candidates, I suppose this is a decent approach.

[Octavus]

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

Polygamy is cringe.

Dude, It's the only way to start a successful cult.

[Michael_v_Anken]

Thx for all your comments!

For general explanation:

In real life it would be cheating and hopefully that wouldn't be an issue for many people! However, that's just my personal attitude, everyone has to handle it the way they want and, if in doubt, live with the consequences, whether positive or negative!^^

This is a video game and you can just try out everything that is possible and perhaps wasn't intended by the developer!? Apart from that, I wasn't free in my decision. The great serpent commanded me to act like this. Since I am not a member of House Va'Ruun, this was my only way to avoid eternal damnation.^^

After about another hour I also managed to get Sarah to the marriage dialogue option. She had a relationship score of 1246 and presumably it worked when she reached the 1250 mark?!

So I can only advise everyone who also has the feeling that they can't go any further to play some more. Sometimes it takes longer until it is triggered.

If you want to repeat the process like me:

1.) First get Sarah to a level where she offers you a relationship and rejects it for the time being (friendship status).
2.) Then bring Andreja to the relationship level and enter into this relationship.
3.) Start a relationship with Sarah (she doesn't mind competition).
4.) Use persuasion to calm the angry Andreja down and increase the value of your relationship until she agrees to the wedding.
5.) After the ritual with Andreja, increase Sarah's relationship value and trigger the wedding mission.

Alternatively, there are 2 console commands for triggering the wedding mission with Sarah:

setstage 0027B667 0 (Sarah's marriagequest)
setstage 0027B667 1 (Sarah's mom will be there)

If you use the console, lock at your companion and get his number into the console.
Then you can use:

getav com_affinity (will show you the actual affinity to the companion)
setav com_affinity (allow you to set the wished value of affinity to the companion)

Andreja's quest triggered at 700!, Sarah's at 1250?

I'll also try to bring Sam and Barrett to the same status. But here definitely only for tax reasons.^^

[Humble]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

You can't have them both. Andreja makes this clear in your dialog with her. Using the console for something like that, can really mess up your game.

Yes you actually can have them both without using console commands at all.

If you romance Andreja first, take her to marriage, then go for Sarah, at the point that Andreja gets upset you have the opportunity to talk to her. A successful [Persuade] check at that point allows you to smooth things over with Andreja and continue to also romance Sarah.

You can marry them both, all it takes is a successful persuasion.

OP's mistake is that he romanced Sarah first, and then didn't even finish it all the way to marriage. There's no way to recover from that without console commands, I don't believe. But if he had started with Andreja in the first place, it would have worked fine for him.

Yes, I read about somewhere you can but had to do it correct, hold off, and do not hang out with Sarah first, till you get Andreja then work with Andreja then married her, then hang out with Sarah Second, marry Sarah, then persuasion Andreja once she found out and anger, when passed persuasion, you now had 2 wives. Just don't be jerk like in Sister Wives TV Show.

I guess they try to make secret route for romance that most people are not aware of it.

[Michael_v_Anken]

Originally posted by Humble:

Yes, I read about somewhere you can but had to do it correct, hold off, and do not hang out with Sarah first, till you get Andreja then work with Andreja then married her, then hang out with Sarah Second, marry Sarah, then persuasion Andreja once she found out and anger, when passed persuasion, you now had 2 wives. Just don't be jerk like in Sister Wives.

;)

[Lazarus {FATE}]

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

Polygamy is cringe.

Monogamy is overrated.

[Humble]

Originally posted by Illuminated Transfixed Cervidae:

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

Polygamy is cringe.

Monogamy is overrated.

No, I think Monogamy is very reasonable and fair, but polygamy is very high risk and higher living sacrifice, losing more freedom.

Monogamy is much safer route than polygamy, and more freedom than polygamy. I guess there might be both downside and upside, depend on who and what was personaly, and why one want polygamy and what was a purpose, and there is must be exam and question, is it based of love and compassion? would one willing to show no favoritism in polygamy?

Polygamy don't work for everyone, like one want fair and loyal, then freedom or want more time spent together.

Single would had almost more freedom than polygamy or Monogamy but in old time, single was not allowed to had sexual with anyone outside of marriage in religion area, that would be impossible for single people who want to had sex or need to had sex, depend on sexual drives.

In any case. Monogamy isn't overrated. It's was balanced between living sacrifice and freedom while ability to had sex within legal (as long as both want it, no rape).

Polygamy might allowed sexual with more than one person but more living sacrifice and less freedom, as not only one person but other person that you lay down life for more than one person, and your time to make them happy in marriage, and there is finance.

Polygamy can easier lead to embarrassment or awkwardness more than monogamy, not only that but more burden, it's all depend on who and why are in it.