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Shodan Sep 2, 2023 @ 12:56pm
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What does "woke" even mean?
No one can even define it, yet everyone complains about it. It takes a few seconds to choose pronouns which you do only once and never again once your character is created. Is that really such a big deal?

This is a science fiction game set in the distant future and it doesn't even take place on Earth. There are shops where you can fully change your appearance, so it makes sense for options not to be limited and labeled by gender in such an advanced world.

For some, as little as seeing black women... existing... is enough for a game to be "woke", apparently. Everyone has their own "definition" of this nonsense and it's very clear what kind of people make these kind of complaints.

These complaints are only used as cover and as an excuse for obviously bad stuff (which explains the need for sugarcoating it, as well as all the fear propaganda and what not) by the worst kind of people who are completely out of touch with reality and can't think of anything more significant to complain about than this completely random detail.

Just how pathetic does your life have to be to complain about picking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pronouns in the character creator of a video game? Not only that, but even creating entire conspiracies about it? Honestly, I would just kill myself at that point.
Last edited by Shodan; Sep 2, 2023 @ 12:57pm
Originally posted by Rain:
The amount of nicknames those fascists give to everyone not hoping on their hatetrain is amazing. Glad we only need one name to call them what they are: fascists
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Alby Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
its just CoD lobbies but the forum version. now instead of being yelled at, you have to read insults. what? you thought people arguing in a video game subforum about politics had braincells?

just sit back and have a giggle
Last edited by Alby; Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:01pm
You know the N-word or the T-word? That's what they're yelling about but they can't say the quiet part out loud so everything is just woke instead.
Shodan Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by Alby:
its just CoD lobbies but the forum version. now instead of being yelled at, you have to read insults. what? you thought people in arguing in a video game subforum had braincells?

All these places on the Internet are a total freakshow, really.

All you get is the exact same idiotic "opinions" from people I can hardly even call people because they "write" the exact same things the exact same way and you can see it coming from a mile away. None of them have their own words, instead they just copy and paste whatever their popular "influencers" say because those people themselves are just copied and pasted. Just think about all those "woke" comments and the "mid" comments and so on. They can't even come up with real words, they just copy and paste the same completely meaningless and wrong nonsense from other idiots on the Internet, then it just spreads like a plague.

It's almost literally impossible to find a single genuine comment, whether it's a positive or a negative one.

You know the N-word or the T-word? That's what they're yelling about but they can't say the quiet part out loud so everything is just woke instead.

Absolutely.

It's just sugarcoating, really. They make it sound like they're fine with the people themselves, but it's just certain politics that they disagree with, like that it can be a bit "too much" or "forced" these days. I could even get behind that, and that's exactly the problem. It's all a manipulation.

Besides, if you ever start getting annoyed by that "woke" stuff being "forced" these days, don't blame those who "force" it, but those who made it so that it needs to be "forced" because they are the ones who caused that. They're the root of all the "annoying" and "woke" stuff. Never forget that and never let them manipulate you with their sugarcoating and fear propaganda.
Last edited by Shodan; Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:13pm
Sleepysteve Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
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This is such weak, spammed bait. You know exactly what people are referring to when they say woke. Now, here is your opportunity to bring up some antiquated definition that is not relevant any longer in a sad attempt to make yourself appear intelligent. Did I summarize this well enough? Pretty sure I did.
Alby Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Shodan:
Originally posted by Alby:
its just CoD lobbies but the forum version. now instead of being yelled at, you have to read insults. what? you thought people in arguing in a video game subforum had braincells?

All these places on the Internet are a total freakshow, really.

All you get is the exact same idiotic "opinions" from people I can hardly even call people because they "write" the exact same things the exact same way and you can see it coming from a mile away. None of them have their own words, instead they just copy and paste whatever their popular "influencers" say because those people themselves are just copied and pasted. Just think about all those "woke" comments and the "mid" comments and so on. They can't even come up with real words, they just copy and paste the same completely meaningless and wrong nonsense from other idiots on the Internet, then it just spreads like a plague.

It's almost literally impossible to find a single genuine comment, whether it's a positive or a negative one.

agree. well, oyu know what they say, the internet has given every brainlet a microphone. godspeed, OP
Karl Pilkington Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:07pm 
It means nonwhite people
Odyssey Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:08pm 
i define woke as pushing your viewpoints and ideology and all that annoying ♥♥♥♥ onto someone else without caring bout their own preferences and viewpoints simply because you dont agree with the opposing sides and refuse to back down cause the "woke" individual s view point are the only right way to do things.

basically a your way or highway. but as i learn things it changes and evolves the meaning simply because if i could more finely tailor my thoughts on the "woke" meaning than i can figure out what i dislike bout it. which atm i think its just dumb to push your personal narrative on anyone because you view it superior or better or w.e.
Fenix Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:09pm 
It's used for the Ultra Liberal types.
Replacing the old Mao-ist thought of oppressed vs oppressor but instead of class and money it is replaced by who you screw and your skin color. Why a black ivy league graduate can be oppressed yet making a quarter mil a year.

Along with the destruction of the four olds by way of using these new 'classes' of people

I bet this post will get ignored and people will just keep going on and on about how no one can define it lol
Evono Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
I asked a Cold and neutral AI to answer this without any human "mixed" intentions

"
The term "woke" is an internet slang term that means "alert to injustice in society, especially racism and discrimination." It is derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) and has been used in this sense since the 1930s. However, it gained more widespread use in the 2010s, particularly in the context of the Black Lives Matter movement.

Here are some examples of how the word "woke" can be used in a sentence:

"I'm glad people are finally starting to wake up to the issue of police brutality."
"Being woke is about more than just being aware of injustice. It's about taking action to fight it."
"The woke culture is often criticized for being too sensitive and politically correct."
The word "woke" can also be used as a verb, meaning "to become aware of injustice." For example, you might say "I woke up to the reality of racism when I saw the video of George Floyd's murder."

The term "woke" has been criticized by some people, who argue that it is overused and can be used in a self-righteous or condescending way. However, it remains a popular term among many people who believe that it is important to be aware of and fight against injustice."
LordDeimosIV Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by Sleepysteve:
This is such weak, spammed bait. You know exactly what people are referring to when they say woke. Now, here is your opportunity to bring up some antiquated definition that is not relevant any longer in a sad attempt to make yourself appear intelligent. Did I summarize this well enough? Pretty sure I did.

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Shodan Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Sleepysteve:
This is such weak, spammed bait. You know exactly what people are referring to when they say woke. Now, here is your opportunity to bring up some antiquated definition that is not relevant any longer in a sad attempt to make yourself appear intelligent. Did I summarize this well enough? Pretty sure I did.

Apparently, I'm just trying to appear intelligent, so why didn't you explain it to me then? What was the purpose of that comment? You said absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by p0k314NET:
Well, it is easy: it is sodomistic narration. Well known since few years. It had a particular aggravation in 2018-2022, and now is slowly becoming bankrupt. In the US it has almost become an official religion, but this is nothing new in this Nazi state. People who opposed it, regardless of orientation (which is downright comical, because including lesbians and gays) from the point became public enemy number one. Fortunately, outside the US, no one cares about this circus. Strange that you should ask that...

This is just dramatic conspiracy nonsense that you made up and cannot back up with evidence. A Nazi state? Official religion? That just makes you sound completely crazy.

Originally posted by Odyssey:
i define woke as pushing your viewpoints and ideology and all that annoying ♥♥♥♥ onto someone else without caring bout their own preferences and viewpoints simply because you dont agree with the opposing sides and refuse to back down cause the "woke" individual s view point are the only right way to do things.

basically a your way or highway. but as i learn things it changes and evolves the meaning simply because if i could more finely tailor my thoughts on the "woke" meaning than i can figure out what i dislike bout it. which atm i think its just dumb to push your personal narrative on anyone because you view it superior or better or w.e.

What are these "viewpoints" and "ideology" and why are they such a problem?

Originally posted by Fenix:
It's used for the Ultra Liberal types.

What makes "the Ultra Liberal types" so bad, specifically these options in this game?

Why should I have a problem with all these things listed above?

Originally posted by Disappointed Dad:
Replacing the old Mao-ist thought of oppressed vs oppressor but instead of class and money it is replaced by who you screw and your skin color. Why a black ivy league graduate can be oppressed yet making a quarter mil a year.

Along with the destruction of the four olds by way of using these new 'classes' of people

I bet this post will get ignored and people will just keep going on and on about how no one can define it lol

Evidently, a lot of people still have a huge problem with non-white and non-straight people, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.
Last edited by Shodan; Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:19pm
ralgur Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
It's not that hard to understand what "woke" means. It was coined by the people who think that anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint needs to get woke. Figure the rest out yourself.
Partyrock Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Shodan:
No one can even define it,

What are you talking about? It's easily defined. The problem is that defining it is not allowed on these forums. Your corporate overlords shelter you from ever being challenged so you don't realize how ridiculous your point of view is. Which is actually part of wokeness. Nor do you seem to even understand remotely the opposing point of view. Which is very sad.
p0k314NET Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Shodan:

This is just dramatic conspiracy nonsense that you made up and cannot back up with evidence. A Nazi state? Official religion? That just makes you sound completely crazy.

Just because something doesn't fit in your chicken head doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Fortunately, I have an objective and all-cold point of view, not least because I don't live in the US. What I wrote is, in the EU, for example, a standard description of what has been going on for a decade in the US - standard, not singular. The world is a little bigger than you imagine. And that it doesn't fit your views no one, including me, cares anymore. Thank you for your attention.
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