i really thought it would be multiplayer coop

[masterac]

i was unhappy with the game been delayed but i thought, wait i better, the game will be better and all.

i saw the presentation yesterday...ooo boy what is up with the hair on the charactere ? look like its 10 year old graphic, then of course you got 30 fps wich is kind of weird since this game is an exclusive on xbox, from a studio bought by microsoft, i thought they are going to show off the power of the X serie finaly, since that brick cost a lot and none of the game push it.

but then i read and say that there is no coop ? why ? its 2023, all game from major studio should be coop, of course solo game are fun, but for game that have that much to explore, doing it with friend is great.

and i dont care if the coop is no visible in cinematic, i wanted to finaly have a good decent game to play with my friends, also doing so give an incentive to other to BUY the game to play it with friend, so it sucks

[Bee🐝]

Please, pure Bethesda games and multiplayer need to stay FAR away from each other.

When Starfield was announced the fanbase was pretty vocal about not wanting mp anything in it. There's a reason multiplayer mods never really get any traction.

If you want a co-op space sim Elite Dangerous and NMS have that. Bethesda, itself, specialises in singleplayer games.

[kdodds]

So ffs go and find a game that supports your needs rather than trodding on boards for games that don't. That this is SP only is not a shock in the slightest unless you believe your opinion is fact and everyone else's reality is malleable by you alone.

[Roaming Zombie]

All their other games do not have coop so why would you expect it this time. That is on you mate. And it is never simply a matter of adding coop in a singleplayer game. You need to balance everything around two players for that. I for one am very glad they do not care about that.

[The Pantheon]

go play among us, kid. this game is for us adults and longtime SP bethesda fans.

[Volfuric]

masterac の投稿を引用：

i was unhappy with the game been delayed but i thought, wait i better, the game will be better and all.

i saw the presentation yesterday...ooo boy what is up with the hair on the charactere ? look like its 10 year old graphic, then of course you got 30 fps wich is kind of weird since this game is an exclusive on xbox, from a studio bought by microsoft, i thought they are going to show off the power of the X serie finaly, since that brick cost a lot and none of the game push it.

but then i read and say that there is no coop ? why ? its 2023, all game from major studio should be coop, of course solo game are fun, but for game that have that much to explore, doing it with friend is great.

and i dont care if the coop is no visible in cinematic, i wanted to finaly have a good decent game to play with my friends, also doing so give an incentive to other to BUY the game to play it with friend, so it sucks

Well expecting co-op from a company that doesn't make online games is your fault entirely so really you disappointed yourself

[masterac]

you guys didn't get what i said, i didn't say PVP, i said coop, like 2 player or 4 max , PVE ring any bell ?

playergod の投稿を引用：

i want to explore space without level 100 players flying towards me with their instakill rockets

again, didn't say PVP

Papa の投稿を引用：

PvP no thanks.

didn't say PVP

CRIMZO の投稿を引用：

Are you really young? Because expecting multiplayer in every game is something I'd expect from someone who didn't grow up with single player games

i am 40 and played lots of solo game, so you are wrong there
also if you remember secret of mana was a solo game, but it was also coop if you had friends, you've also had other 2 player games but beat them all was normal to have multi otherwise its borring.

wesnef の投稿を引用：

masterac の投稿を引用：

its 2023, all game from major studio should be coop

Oh good god, no.


(also, what does year or "modern" have to do with styles & genres of games? Should we say "it's 2023, no one should be making or playing Hidden Object games"? Or 2D side-scrolling platformers - after all, it's 2023, everything should be 3D! /s)

i don't imagine it like that, the bigger the game, the more space you've got to fill so coop (PVE) is a way to fill it and make it more fun, because AI compagnon have a limit, and when game are suppose to be play has a team, i don't think it is so hard to imagine it with other playes, but again no PVP

Joblo の投稿を引用：

It's as if in 2023 people forget that they can move. Who's stopping you from exploring with your friends? Group up and explore together. Don't have enough space at home?

we are talking about virtual game, i don't see your point here

Meatbag の投稿を引用：

For coop u can try Avorion. Its basically space minecraft. Story quests, randomly generated world, factions, relationships with factions, trading, crafting, combat. And ship building that limited to ur imagination.

Amazing game that for some reason is way less popular than should be.

and i have it, played solo, and enjoy having friend log in and beat the crap out of pirate

Kaje の投稿を引用：

masterac の投稿を引用：

i was unhappy with the game been delayed but i thought, wait i better, the game will be better and all.

i saw the presentation yesterday...ooo boy what is up with the hair on the charactere ? look like its 10 year old graphic, then of course you got 30 fps wich is kind of weird since this game is an exclusive on xbox, from a studio bought by microsoft, i thought they are going to show off the power of the X serie finaly, since that brick cost a lot and none of the game push it.

but then i read and say that there is no coop ? why ? its 2023, all game from major studio should be coop, of course solo game are fun, but for game that have that much to explore, doing it with friend is great.

and i dont care if the coop is no visible in cinematic, i wanted to finaly have a good decent game to play with my friends, also doing so give an incentive to other to BUY the game to play it with friend, so it sucks

I appreciate this may be news to you, but not every game needs to have a multiplayer component.

In fact, many games are far superior because they do not have one.

yes some game are made for solo and better that way when you play a hero that is alone;
link, samu, mario, megaman, snake, sheppard

but when you are suppose to be part of a group, being able to have your friend play with you is the same has having an AI team.

hottnova75 の投稿を引用：

Singleplayer games are better because multiplayer games get nerfed into the ground because of "Exploits" , that in singleplayer games mean nothing because the element of other players is not there to offset the games "Balance"

Truth is MMOs and multiplayer games are hobbled for this very reason. Less choices, less loot, less fun when other players can ruin your immersion.

They end up trolling the forums of games they want to ruin.

yes when you play PVP, there is always a way to find and cheat, and that sucks, but if you read like i said again and again, i was not talking about PVP but PVE, so no 100 different player with you

Ruin の投稿を引用：

CRIMZO の投稿を引用：

Are you really young? Because expecting multiplayer in every game is something I'd expect from someone who didn't grow up with single player games

That definitely seems to be the case, doesn't it... The people who always cry and moan about there being no coop in every new game definitely seem to be from younger generations...

I for one am VERY happy this was not coop, as it means that the single player experience will be that much better...

Trying to balance a game like this for both single player, and coop, means that they both suffer... Much better to focus strictly on one, and Bethesda's strength has always been their single player experience...

if you read before i aint from the younger generation, i am starting slowly like the rest of us to be part of the older one, and again i played lots of solo game, first one if were on dos and windows 3.1, but you have to live with the advancement of tech, so yes i consider game nowaday to be able to have more life should have a coop so you can play with a group of friend ( not server with 1000 people)

Jerry の投稿を引用：

Go buy and play Star Citizen if you want multiplayer. Leave Starfield as a single player only game.

star citizen is exaclty the point where i wanted to go, i played it, i even played it with friends, but that game has no live, everything is pre built, no story of fun stuff to do


i keep talking about being able to have friends play with you is because once you complet the game solo, it aint more fun to play until you forget your previous choice in game or choose a different path.
those game nowadays are starting to look gorgeous and you should be able to play them again and again, and doing so....with a buddy is way more fun

[Dragonbait]

Why would you expect that, they said from day one it was a single player adventure game.

[Shadow]

Will it have Fortnite like Battle Royale with 100 players.

[Ruin]

masterac の投稿を引用：

Ruin の投稿を引用：

That definitely seems to be the case, doesn't it... The people who always cry and moan about there being no coop in every new game definitely seem to be from younger generations...

I for one am VERY happy this was not coop, as it means that the single player experience will be that much better...

Trying to balance a game like this for both single player, and coop, means that they both suffer... Much better to focus strictly on one, and Bethesda's strength has always been their single player experience...

if you read before i aint from the younger generation, i am starting slowly like the rest of us to be part of the older one, and again i played lots of solo game, first one if were on dos and windows 3.1, but you have to live with the advancement of tech, so yes i consider game nowaday to be able to have more life should have a coop so you can play with a group of friend ( not server with 1000 people)

Jerry の投稿を引用：

Go buy and play Star Citizen if you want multiplayer. Leave Starfield as a single player only game.

star citizen is exaclty the point where i wanted to go, i played it, i even played it with friends, but that game has no live, everything is pre built, no story of fun stuff to do


i keep talking about being able to have friends play with you is because once you complet the game solo, it aint more fun to play until you forget your previous choice in game or choose a different path.
those game nowadays are starting to look gorgeous and you should be able to play them again and again, and doing so....with a buddy is way more fun

That's not advancement, though... If it's an RPG, the content does not miraculously change with other people involved... It's still the same content... You just now have some random person talking in your ear while you trying to talk to NPC's... You've got all the same issues as you do with single player games, just with other people involved...

How does having other people playing with you suddenly change the content?

[ImOnYourSide]

Jerry の投稿を引用：

Go buy and play Star Citizen if you want multiplayer. Leave Starfield as a single player only game.

Star Citizen? LOL bad joke

Just tack in some coop pve, It wouldn't affect the solo game at all.

[Ruin]

ImOnYourSide の投稿を引用：

Jerry の投稿を引用：

Go buy and play Star Citizen if you want multiplayer. Leave Starfield as a single player only game.

Star Citizen? LOL bad joke

Just tack in some coop pve, It wouldn't affect the solo game at all.

Except for the development time and work needed to implement it, balance it (as game balance would need to adapt to whether you're playing solo, or in groups to ensure it's not too easy in groups) and changes would need to be made to how players interact with NPC's and quests...

But yeah, otherwise, it won't affect the solo game at all... /facepalm

[ImOnYourSide]

Ruin の投稿を引用：

ImOnYourSide の投稿を引用：

Star Citizen? LOL bad joke

Just tack in some coop pve, It wouldn't affect the solo game at all.

Except for the development time and work needed to implement it, balance it (as game balance would need to adapt to whether you're playing solo, or in groups to ensure it's not too easy in groups) and changes would need to be made to how players interact with NPC's and quests...

But yeah, otherwise, it won't affect the solo game at all... /facepalm

Modders fix Bethesda games anyway, Just toss it in and it affects not one solo player. You won't even know it's there. Just tag along with someone elses questline who cares if you're not going to play the mode? I want to be able to mod a Bethesda game with coop, it's never been done before. They could even say it's experimental we threw you a bone and we're not troubleshooting it.

[Ruin]

ImOnYourSide の投稿を引用：

Ruin の投稿を引用：

Except for the development time and work needed to implement it, balance it (as game balance would need to adapt to whether you're playing solo, or in groups to ensure it's not too easy in groups) and changes would need to be made to how players interact with NPC's and quests...

But yeah, otherwise, it won't affect the solo game at all... /facepalm

Modders fix Bethesda games anyway, Just toss it in and it affects not one solo player. You won't even know it's there. Just tag along with someone elses questline who cares if you're not going to play the mode? I want to be able to mod a Bethesda game with coop, it's never been done before. They could even say it's experimental we threw you a bone and we're not troubleshooting it.

You do understand how absolutely ridiculous that is, right? Add in coop, so modders can play with it, and then tell people Bethesda are not gonna support a feature they added? People would lose their frikken minds and demand Bethesda not only support the feature, but also add more coop content...

No... It absolutely would affect the singleplayer experience... There's no way it wouldn't... Either directly, by having to alter the flow of content to support coop gameplay, or indirectly by diverting development from single player exclusive content...

You're being incredibly naive and obtuse if you think otherwise...

[Half-Vampire]

Please no, it will be Fallout 76 all over again. Cuz people want coop in Fallout games so much, when they gave u guys Fallout 76, ya'll hated it lol.
Let it be Singleplayer and with mods. Which BGS are known for.

[Ruin]

Half-Vampire の投稿を引用：

Please no, it will be Fallout 76 all over again. Cuz people want coop in Fallout games so much, when they gave u guys Fallout 76, ya'll hated it lol.
Let it be Singleplayer and with mods. Which BGS are known for.

The irony is that Bethesda delivered exactly what they promised... A survival-light, open-world, sandbox RPG, set in the Fallout universe... Anyone paying attention would have seen that this was clearly what 76 was always going to be... Hell, it was widely compared to Rust and ARC before release...

The problem was that people assumed it would be FO4.5 (a traditional Bethesda RPG), but with coop, and then claimed Bethesda "lied" when the players disappointed themselves with false assumptions...