SteamDeck needs to be fixed ASAP

[Arenus Septim Siverius]

Steam 's software for steamdeck on windows ruined all my fun getting the device.
The mouse cursor only works when i keep holding STEAM KEY and only on specific apps , Cheat Engine for example stops working at all so i have to rely on invisible TOUCHscreen cursor......, Now my left analog stick is not registered in games for some reason stopped working . You need to fix those issues and for windows users allow default Mouse behavior like without running steam software. It works great.

Many of the probles is because apps like Cheat Engine even ELDEN Riing itself are disabling any kind of HOTKEYS ( Like alt tab) that are NON-NATIVE kyeboard/ mouse when they are on top. So only fix is to use those "windowed{ ( ELDEN RING) .
For configuarions i fixed my issue by browsing another configuration and using it instead. for now there doesnt seem to be any way to restore XINPUT keys on the configuration ( at least to my knowledge but i may be wrong correct me if so ) . So be careful if you are messing with your configuarions not to end up like me spending half a day just to figure out what is wrong and find a solution.

3RD I see people down below boasting about windows on Steam Deck.
It is like having a PC snd someone telling you what to install or not. Dont pay attention to Windows haters or vice-versa. This is YOUR Portable PC so install what you want. I prefer windows because its easy to use any emulators and apps and they run much faster than on linux based Steam OS. But that is my preference!

[WarnerCK]

Windows on the Steam Deck is entirely unsupported.

[Arenus Septim Siverius]

Originally posted by WarnerCK:

Windows on the Steam Deck is entirely unsupported.

the proble is with steam os as well i cant now use any games because my left stick wont register in game

[Balderick]

Originally posted by WarnerCK:

Windows on the Steam Deck is entirely unsupported.

Can you share a link where Valve actually say that. I thought Valve said Steam Deck is a PC and users can install windows if they want? Which means windows should work just as well as SteamOS on Steam Deck
You seem to be insinuating that installing windows on Steam Deck broke Arenus Septim Siverius's Steam Deck.

imo opinion not updating to SteamOS beta channel for latest firmware and OS updates and then installing windows may have caused unforeseen issues - which may be a much bigger problem indicating Valve shipped Steam Deck too the wild before it it was ready for the wild.


Is it possible to get firmware updates for Steam Deck by opting in to Steam Deck beta on Steam for windows or able to some other way update its firmware other than through SteamOS?

If not, Steam Deck is not a pc. It is a proprietary console capable of running desktop operating systems just like PS3 and xbox.

[WarnerCK]

Originally posted by Balderick:

Can you share a link where Valve actually say that.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3131696199122435099

Lastly, we are providing these resources as is and are unfortunately unable to offer 'Windows on Deck' support. If you get stuck and need a way back to the default Steam Deck OS, please follow these recovery instructions.

[Balderick]

Thanks for that link to
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1675200/announcements/detail/3131696199122435100
You are taking out of context what is said. Not being able

Originally posted by Valve:

to offer 'Windows on Deck' support

DOES NOT MEAN unsupported.

Unable to provide support is meant in the context of spending time and effort in helping folks out with windows on Deck issues from Valve devs or Valve Support. This leaves other Deck users to help and give support if they can or want.

Valve would not provide windows drivers for Steam Deck if windows is unsupported.

If you really cared about Steam Deck and wanted to help new owners enjoy Steam Deck more you would be sharing much more useful and more truthful information than saying

Originally posted by WarnerCK:

Windows on the Steam Deck is entirely unsupported.

as that simply contradicts everything said by Valve in that link you shared.

It would be fairer to say that

windows 11 is currently unsupported but will be soon

as the info in that link explains there needs to be a BIOS update for Steam Deck before that can happen. And Valve are working on that so windows 11 can be installed to full windows 11 requirements.

For now, Valve recommend Steam Deck users use windows 10 if they want to install windows on Deck.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by Balderick:

For now, Valve recommend Steam Deck users use windows 10 if they want to install windows on Deck.

Valve recommends Steam Deck users stick to SteamOS, however they have put drivers out there and won't stop you if you want to tinker.

Considering the default and supported OS is SteamOS, I expect Valve will prioritize perfecting that first before they even begin to worry about any Windows functionality, if they ever do.

[Balderick]

You are entitled to your own opinion. My perspective is end users can choose which OS they want to use because Deck is a PC.

The Deck BIOS had update in April 2022 to meet minimum hardware requirements for windows 11.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1675200/announcements/detail/3216142491800836086

Steam Support clearly say both windows 10 and windows 11 are supported. The audio driver issue with windows 11 is biggest reason for folks to just use windows 10 for now.

Originally posted by Valve:

Both Windows 10 and Windows 11 are supported. For Windows 11, make sure you have the latest OS update (in order to get the latest BIOS with fTPM support) before installing.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6121-eccd-d643-baa8

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

... before they even begin to worry about any Windows functionality,

you are warped. Valve have been developing Steam on windows, for how long compared to Steam for linux? Rhetorical question, please do not reply.

Extremist leftist linux elitists killed SteamMachines. I do not give a monkies toss about the "linux is the only way" thing. I just love Steam and appreciate being able to choose between windows or linux on the hardware i own. What Valve have done and are doing with Steam Hardware is amazing. Really looking forward to them supporting aarch64


Peace. Out.

[Lenny McLennington]

To all the people in this thread implying that Valve is obligated to spend time bug fixing Windows on Deck, or that Valve ever said Windows on Deck should or would be as good as SteamOS on deck:

Valve only said they won't stop you from installing Windows if you want to. They did not say that it would be a good experience. They provided drivers as-is with no expectation or obligation of any sort of support. Windows on deck is unsupported. If you want a good experience that is getting regular bug fixes and updates and improvements, you won't find that with Windows, and Valve never implied that you would get that with Windows.

Not saying you shouldn't report issues that happen on Windows, or that you shouldn't help other people with their Windows on Deck problems if you can, but just have the right expectations for Windows on Deck as an experience that isn't officially supported.

[Balderick]

yah Steam on windows on PC is not officially supported by Valve. What a clown. Away and blow your trumpet somewhere else.


The biggest reason anybody would want to use SteamOS is to try it out and help Valve optimise all the new UI and all the other new Steam features - so they get pushed to other Steam clients quicker.

Steam is what makes SteamOS on Deck special. Just like Steam on windows makes any PC special.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Balderick:

yah Steam on windows on PC is not officially supported by Valve. What a clown. Away and blow your trumpet somewhere else.


The biggest reason anybody would want to use SteamOS is to try it out and help Valve optimise all the new UI and all the other new Steam features - so they get pushed to other Steam clients quicker.

Steam is what makes SteamOS on Deck special. Just like Steam on windows makes any PC special.

Except the deck was built around SteamOS. Optimized around SteamOS. Intended to be used with SteamOS. Gets the best performance with SteamOS.

Has official support with SteamOS.

Windows is merely and afterthought for those who want to try it and for the small selection of games that use an antic-cheat that doesn't work on Linux.

[Balderick]

Stop kidding yourself. Running games for windows on linux is cool but they are not being run natively on the platform they were made for. Sure i totally get how awesome customising cars are. Like dropping a LS engine into an older car gives obvious huge performance gains.

Truth is there is no huge performance gains from making games for windows run on linux.

I do not understand why SteamOS exists. All the reasons Gabe shared back in 2012 never materialised. For me the biggest reason SteamOS exists is to give gamers more choice. It great you obviously love SteamOS and choose to use it.

But your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reeks "cult member" to me. I do not think Gabe ever wanted to be a cult leader or wanted SteamOS user base be flooded with over opinionated linux enthusiasts sharing misinformation.


Can you share actual evidence to prove games run better on Steam Deck than anywhere else? It a low powered handheld ffs.

If anything Steam Deck makes for an awesome portable cloud delivered content client - which imo is best way to add huge performance gains to Deck or any other handheld device or any potato pc or smart tv or phone or tablet or smart fridge.


I am really looking forward to seeing cloud gaming services using SteamOS vm hosts to stream games and SteamOS desktop and XR stuff to literally any device with a display and internet connection.


If you really understood or appreciated what SteamOS was about you would just be talking about games. Games from Steam Store.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Balderick:

Stop kidding yourself. Running games for windows on linux is cool but they are not being run natively on the platform they were made for. Sure i totally get how awesome customising cars are. Like dropping a LS engine into an older car gives obvious huge performance gains.

Truth is there is no huge performance gains from making games for windows run on linux.

I do not understand why SteamOS exists. All the reasons Gabe shared back in 2012 never materialised. For me the biggest reason SteamOS exists is to give gamers more choice. It great you obviously love SteamOS and choose to use it.

But your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reeks "cult member" to me. I do not think Gabe ever wanted to be a cult leader or wanted SteamOS user base be flooded with over opinionated linux enthusiasts sharing misinformation.


Can you share actual evidence to prove games run better on Steam Deck than anywhere else? It a low powered handheld ffs.

If anything Steam Deck makes for an awesome portable cloud delivered content client - which imo is best way to add huge performance gains to Deck or any other handheld device or any potato pc or smart tv or phone or tablet or smart fridge.


I am really looking forward to seeing cloud gaming services using SteamOS vm hosts to stream games and SteamOS desktop and XR stuff to literally any device with a display and internet connection.


If you really understood what SteamOS was about you would just be talking about games.

They have tested running games on the Deck through Windows vs SteamOS.

SteamOS sees better performance. Even the Ayaneo is outperformed by the Deck because it's just Windows slapped in a handheld.


Here's a channel that runs them both and compares the performance. In general, SteamOS will hold the frames a bit better and have less stuttering. He also does not have the VRAM unlocked outside of the standard 1GB which has been shown to further increase performance in SteamOS.

https://youtu.be/HjisfgILW1A

[Balderick]

Have to admit looking at that vid the performace between the two devices is very close. Knowing the cost difference definitely makes Steam Deck clear winner.

It still hard to know how the game actualy feels though but cant deny if i blind tested that i would have picked the one on the left as "better". Very close but if i had to choose one as better - Deck won.

[supermario]

what a bunch of cry babies steam deck dragged to the community....
SD is amazing,if you want windows get a laptop

[ka]

I expect Valve not to waste any time supporting Windows on the Steam Deck. People who want Windows have plenty of other devices to choose from.