Asus rog ally

[BigBoyWithTheButter]

Well I know this probably the wrong place to be asking this lol... I have a 256 gb steam deck but I'm interested in the rog ally due to the better screen and better hardware internally... what are your thoughts? Is the upgrade worth it? Is it a significant upgrade for my games? Battery life does not bother me as I never play on the go and am.always near an outlet when I play

[Mr.Gold]

Bit of a curve ball but have you considered a mini PC? For a bit less money you can find one that performs at least as well as the Ally (same APU more power leading to better performance). It sounds to me that you would be playing it plugged in to the mains anyway so a mini PC might offer a good compromise. As it stands, the Ally offers either more resolution or more performance. It is not strong enough to offer both. It is more powerful than the deck in most use cases (only at 12w and bellow does the deck win). Thendeck has a better interface and better battery management. The Ally has a better screen and better performance at 15w and of course it scales all thebway up to 30w for some really impressive performance... That you won't notice if you play 1080p. 1080p is about 2.5x the pixels as 800p the Ally is roughly 2.5x more powerful than the deck when fully juiced.

[Drak3]

引用自 BigBoyWithTheButter：

引用自 ?legit：

The Asus ROG Ally is an improvement on the Steam Deck in almost every area. Night and day difference. Sadly it only has 2 and not 4 back buttons.

On paper it's an improvement.. I think the deck runs games more efficiently if that makes sense?

I have both. The Ally's hardware is mostly an improvement, except for the lack of trackpads (which I only care about because 7" touchscreens on Win 11 is dog water), the reduction of back buttons to 2, and no Xbox Guide button equivalent (there's a way to rebind it, but you basically have to use one of the back buttons).
The Software on the Ally drags that improved hardware down. Windows does not cope with controllers as a primary input device at all, and constantly fight with software suites like Armory Crate SE that are meant to make Windows usable with controllers. Windows 11 is a regression for touchscreen use (it's largely just a massive regression overall), and it gets worse the smaller the screen is. I spent a day getting controller input to work in every game on my Ally, and unfortunately it's just one bad update away from breaking all over again.


Overall, the Ally isn't worth it right now. Maybe it'll be worth it if ASUS supports it long term (they don't have a great track record there), or if HoloISO/SteamOS/ChimeraOS get updated to support the Ally.

[Drak3]

引用自 ?legit：

Then you lack a proper screen which you can compare the steam deck with. 65% srgb looks far from okay.

I've got a 2021 MacBook Pro. It's 99% DCI-P3, a color gamut that's ~25% wider than sRGB. In comparison, the Steam Deck looks fine. If you're not a content creator, it's not a big deal.

[Murasakino Rin]

or if HoloISO/SteamOS/ChimeraOS get updated to support the Ally.

i would be interested when that happens but not in the ally itself but how it runs linux compared to windows

[WarnerCK]

引用自 Murasakino Rin：

or if HoloISO/SteamOS/ChimeraOS get updated to support the Ally.

i would be interested when that happens but not in the ally itself but how it runs linux compared to windows

Early days, but
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/06/the-linux-coders-turning-the-rog-ally-and-other-handhelds-into-steam-deck-clones/
https://www.phoronix.com/review/asus-rog-ally-linux

[[?]legit]

引用自 Drak3：

引用自 ?legit：

Then you lack a proper screen which you can compare the steam deck with. 65% srgb looks far from okay.

I've got a 2021 MacBook Pro. It's 99% DCI-P3, a color gamut that's ~25% wider than sRGB. In comparison, the Steam Deck looks fine. If you're not a content creator, it's not a big deal.

might want to get your eyes checked.

[Drak3]

引用自 ?legit：

引用自 Drak3：

I've got a 2021 MacBook Pro. It's 99% DCI-P3, a color gamut that's ~25% wider than sRGB. In comparison, the Steam Deck looks fine. If you're not a content creator, it's not a big deal.

might want to get your eyes checked.

Yeah, nearly no one cares about paper racing a (trying to be) processional spec on gaming devices, especially one that most people with good eye sight won't reliably notice a difference unless they're actively looking at the same content on two monitors at the same time. Even then, a significant plurality of consumer monitors, laptops, and tablets are in the 60-70% sRGB segment.

Paper racing sRGB specs is also just pathetic. The gamut itself is comparatively narrow and doesn't provide that much information about a screen, and it provides NO details about how the OS or firmware itself is calibrated to deal with the color accuracy of the screen.

The panel being 65% or 100% sRGB alone is literally irrelevant in the consumer market.

[[?]legit]

引用自 Drak3：

引用自 ?legit：

might want to get your eyes checked.

Yeah, nearly no one cares about paper racing a (trying to be) processional spec on gaming devices, especially one that most people with good eye sight won't reliably notice a difference unless they're actively looking at the same content on two monitors at the same time. Even then, a significant plurality of consumer monitors, laptops, and tablets are in the 60-70% sRGB segment.

Paper racing sRGB specs is also just pathetic. The gamut itself is comparatively narrow and doesn't provide that much information about a screen, and it provides NO details about how the OS or firmware itself is calibrated to deal with the color accuracy of the screen.

The panel being 65% or 100% sRGB alone is literally irrelevant in the consumer market.

Roger that, you have no idea what you are talking about. Loud and clear.

[Drak3]

引用自 ?legit：

Roger that, you have no idea what you are talking about. Loud and clear.

Pot, I am not kettle.

[Pidi]

引用自 Waldherz彡：

引用自 BigBoyWithTheButter：

Windows doesnt bother me and and the battery life isnt an issue for me.. I really want to know if you think visually and performance wise it's a significant upgrade.. the steam deck is currently my primary gaming device right now so that's why im interested in getting the most out of my games

To Answer the question: Yes

This is a Steam Deck Forum. You will find a lot of hardcore Steam Deck fans that wont accept any other device.

Really? (after all the software issues and OS errors?)

[Stressed]

Well, with Valve's Windows drivers, especially APU rarely being updated and hardly fixing anything, I'd say go for it. Those who want a Windows handheld won't be disappointed, especially if you give the Ally the same amount of time to mature with drivers etc.

[Prezidentas]

引用自 Stressed：

Well, with Valve's Windows drivers, especially APU rarely being updated and hardly fixing anything, I'd say go for it. Those who want a Windows handheld won't be disappointed, especially if you give the Ally the same amount of time to mature with drivers etc.

only masochists use windows on handheld consoles anyways. ROG software barely makes it usable.

[Darzai]

Imo ROG ally improves the wrong factors. For a handheld on the road, you want portability (battery life) and a smooth game experience. ROG ally does not improve on that enough.

Where the ROG will improve on fps for games, it will be less for overall experience, because of it using Windows which is not tailored to a handheld experience. Not to mention the incredibly annoying and interfering way of Windows update.

Then there is the annoying part that if you want to make use of that extra power from the ROG Ally, it will be at the cost of battery life. So much that it becomes just as bad as SD battery life.

I only see some justification for ROG Ally if you mainly play games that use anti cheat software or tricky windows-only launchers. They might also work on SD, but an update could stop them working for a while. On Windows you would not have this issue (usually).

[Elstar]

引用自 Mr.Gold：

Bit of a curve ball but have you considered a mini PC? For a bit less money you can find one that performs at least as well as the Ally (same APU more power leading to better performance). It sounds to me that you would be playing it plugged in to the mains anyway so a mini PC might offer a good compromise. As it stands, the Ally offers either more resolution or more performance. It is not strong enough to offer both. It is more powerful than the deck in most use cases (only at 12w and bellow does the deck win). Thendeck has a better interface and better battery management. The Ally has a better screen and better performance at 15w and of course it scales all thebway up to 30w for some really impressive performance... That you won't notice if you play 1080p. 1080p is about 2.5x the pixels as 800p the Ally is roughly 2.5x more powerful than the deck when fully juiced.

Yeah handhelds strength is not the performance. So if you want the highest performance you are better looking elsewhere maybe even a desktop. That said if you think the Deck is good enough then the deck is a good choice and you can do things with it that you can't do with a desktop. Although personally I think the Ally is a waste of money

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 ?legit：

引用自 Drak3：

Yeah, nearly no one cares about paper racing a (trying to be) processional spec on gaming devices, especially one that most people with good eye sight won't reliably notice a difference unless they're actively looking at the same content on two monitors at the same time. Even then, a significant plurality of consumer monitors, laptops, and tablets are in the 60-70% sRGB segment.

Paper racing sRGB specs is also just pathetic. The gamut itself is comparatively narrow and doesn't provide that much information about a screen, and it provides NO details about how the OS or firmware itself is calibrated to deal with the color accuracy of the screen.

The panel being 65% or 100% sRGB alone is literally irrelevant in the consumer market.

Roger that, you have no idea what you are talking about. Loud and clear.

Why are you doing a personal monologue?