Steam Deck

Steam Deck

Diogenes Nov 24, 2022 @ 10:43pm
Deck preferred to Desktop.
Am I the only person who, since having a Steam Deck, has preferred gaming on the Steam Deck to an actual Desktop PC?

I haven't played many games, if any, on my PC since I've had my Steam Deck.

I've been gaming almost exclusively on the Deck.

Emulators, Steam Games etc, it's all been done on my Steam Deck.

It's a perfect system almost for everything gaming related.

I prefer it over my desktop.

My desktop has been relegated, basically, to watching movies and replying to emails, since receiving the Steam Deck.

If anything happened to my Steam Deck, like it get's bricked, or damaged beyond all repair, I would absolutely buy a second one in a heart beat, without even thinking about it.

In a way, it even saves money in the long run, because there's no messing around buying gaming peripherals, if you don't want too, so that means no brand new Xbone One controller every 6 months because the last one died, while, at the same time, being able to use the exact same device to jump in on all of the same online matches, in any Steam game that the high end desktop pc gamers are playing.
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ReBoot Nov 24, 2022 @ 10:52pm 
I find myself gravitating towards the Deck for certain games. "I could go to my desk now to play Koa, or I could get onto my couch and get that dock some use". I do prefer my desktop for shooters though.

That, however, got more to do with the Deck being docked to TV. If I ha dir on my desk, docked to minot or & KBM, I would play shooters on it as well.

When my desktop died a couple weeks ago (software issues making it unbootable), I didn't eben care all that much, knowing that I can, in fact use my Deck. Repair didn't took long but still, was good to know that, in worst case, I still had a PC to play/work on.
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Diogenes Nov 24, 2022 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by ReBoot:
When my desktop died a couple weeks ago (software issues making it unbootable), I didn't eben care all that much, knowing that I can, in fact use my Deck. Repair didn't took long but still, was good to know that, in worst case, I still had a PC to play/work on.

I feel the same way. Both of my systems work fine now, but if my Desktop broke, I'd leave it there, like it was no big deal. I would have it fixed, but I wouldn't rush. If my Deck broke though, I'd be gutted.

I am considering, in fact, putting some money inside my Steam Wallet each month, so that I can eventually afford to buy a second Deck. I want to use one as a hand held PC exclusively, while leaving the other in a Dock and using it as a desktop PC.

In fact, if Valve enabled TPM so that the Steam Deck could officially support Windows 11, I don't think that I would ever buy any other PC, custom built or pre-built from a store like Curry's / PC World. It is very nearly the perfect PC.

I think your right by saying that it depends on what games you are playing. I was playing Mortal Kombat 11 on it the other night, and that certainly felt better on the Deck. Streets of Rage 4 also felt excellent. Total War Troy, on the other hand, or strategy games in general, might be best left to Desktops.

You know, a few years back, I was going to start a project, building a new gaming PC using ITX components, to see how small I could build a gaming PC, while still being able to play games that required a lot of power to make them run right.

I'm glad I didn't bother now, because the Deck is the smallest, most powerful gaming system that I have ever used.
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ReBoot Nov 24, 2022 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by Diogenes:
I feel the same way. Both of my systems work fine now, but if my Desktop broke, I'd leave it there, like it was no big deal. If my Deck broke though, I'd be gutted.

I am considering, in fact, putting some money inside my Steam Wallet each month, so that I can eventually afford to buy a second Deck. I want to use one as a hand held PC exclusively, while leaving the other in a Dock and using it as a desktop PC.
Why though? (Un)docking the Deck is a matter of a a few seconds tops. It is absolutely easy to use the same Deck on the subway as well as docked at home. Unless you're so madly in love with Valve, you want to throw money their way for the sake of it, buying a second Deck to keep it docked is a horrible waste of money.
Originally posted by Diogenes:
In fact, if Valve enabled TPM so that the Steam Deck could officially support Windows 11, I don't think that I would ever buy any other PC, custom built or pre-built from a store like Curry's / PC World. It is very nearly the perfect PC.
Valve enabled TPM by the way and there's people running Windows 11 on their Decks (as well as Windows 10).
Originally posted by Diogenes:
I think your right by saying that it depends on what games you are playing. I was playing MK 11 on it the other night, and that certainly felt better on the Deck. Streets of Rage 4 also felt excellent. Total War Troy, on the other hand, or strategy games in general, might be best left to Desktops.
Not true. It's not about Deck-vs-desktop, it's about means of input. The Deck, rather obivously does gamepad input, but your desktop does too! Did you know you could get a gamepad for your desktop PC and play Mortal Kombat with the same level of comfort you would on the Deck? Same goes in reverse, Civilization isn't better for desktop, it's better for KBM and you can use KBM with your Deck, as I said above
Originally posted by ReBoot:
That, however, got more to do with the Deck being docked to TV. If I ha dir on my desk, docked to minot or & KBM, I would play shooters on it as well.
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Diogenes Nov 24, 2022 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by ReBoot:
Originally posted by Diogenes:
I feel the same way. Both of my systems work fine now, but if my Desktop broke, I'd leave it there, like it was no big deal. If my Deck broke though, I'd be gutted.

I am considering, in fact, putting some money inside my Steam Wallet each month, so that I can eventually afford to buy a second Deck. I want to use one as a hand held PC exclusively, while leaving the other in a Dock and using it as a desktop PC.
Why though? (Un)docking the Deck is a matter of a a few seconds tops. It is absolutely easy to use the same Deck on the subway as well as docked at home. Unless you're so madly in love with Valve, you want to throw money their way for the sake of it, buying a second Deck to keep it docked is a horrible waste of money.
Originally posted by Diogenes:
In fact, if Valve enabled TPM so that the Steam Deck could officially support Windows 11, I don't think that I would ever buy any other PC, custom built or pre-built from a store like Curry's / PC World. It is very nearly the perfect PC.
Valve enabled TPM by the way and there's people running Windows 11 on their Decks (as well as Windows 10).
Originally posted by Diogenes:
I think your right by saying that it depends on what games you are playing. I was playing MK 11 on it the other night, and that certainly felt better on the Deck. Streets of Rage 4 also felt excellent. Total War Troy, on the other hand, or strategy games in general, might be best left to Desktops.
Not true. It's not about Deck-vs-desktop, it's about means of input. The Deck, rather obivously does gamepad input, but your desktop does too! Did you know you could get a gamepad for your desktop PC and play Mortal Kombat with the same level of comfort you would on the Deck? Same goes in reverse, Civilization isn't better for desktop, it's better for KBM and you can use KBM with your Deck, as I said above
Originally posted by ReBoot:
That, however, got more to do with the Deck being docked to TV. If I ha dir on my desk, docked to minot or & KBM, I would play shooters on it as well.

Because I want them to be dedicated to specific tasks. One mobile, one static. Besides which, if I ever need to send my Steam Deck back to Valve for repairs, I'll have a spare Steam Deck, which I don't have at the minute.

I want to be able to install Windows 11 to my Steam Deck and to have it fully supported by Valve, before I install it right now. As far as I am aware, Windows 11 isn't fully supported by Valve at the minute, and it has to be installed onto a Micro SD Card. Windows 11 cannot be installed directly on to the internal HD, replacing the Steam OS, as far as I am aware. Furthermore, I don't know if Windows 11, once installed to a Steam Deck, receives updates. I had read that Windows 11 installed to a Steam Deck via Micro SD, didn't receive Windows updates. I won't use Windows 11 if it does not receive security patches and what not.

I was aware of that 5 years ago, probably longer in fact. But, I still maintain that MK 11 feels like it plays better on the Steam Deck. I wouldn't be doing it if it didn't. Buying games that feel better using Keyboard and mouse, in my opinion, completely contradicts what the Steam Deck is designed for. If I wanted to use a mouse and keyboard for gaming, I would have just stuck with my Desktop. That said, the build in trackpads on the Steam Deck are very good for mouse control. I was using them in Total War Troy, and they were very responsive. I guess that it just feels better, to me, using a desktop PC to play strategy games.
Last edited by Diogenes; Nov 24, 2022 @ 11:42pm
WarnerCK Nov 25, 2022 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by Diogenes:
I want to be able to install Windows 11 to my Steam Deck and to have it fully supported by Valve, before I install it right now.
That's not going to happen.

Valve don't mind if you install Windows: they have a rather laissez-faire culture generally, and having the potential to install the Windows that they're familiar with increases consumer confidence against them just not getting on with this "Loonix" thing, or Valve losing interest, or Valve going bankrupt, or whatever. Valve aren't going to deliberately break Windows on the thing, and they'll take reasonable steps to make the installation of Windows a practical possibility, so that people will actually buy and try the thing.

But the Steam Deck is a Linux gaming demonstration device. That is its purpose: to get gamers aware that Linux is a viable gaming platform, and to get game developers incentivised to make their games work on Linux. Should Microsoft follow their historic behaviour pattern, Valve needs their customers to be willing and able to be Steam users that don't use Windows rather than Windows users that don't use Steam.

Windows on the Deck is never going to be a first class citizen.
Diogenes Nov 25, 2022 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by WarnerCK:
But the Steam Deck is a Linux gaming demonstration device.

Which it has succeeded wonderfully in being.
ReBoot Nov 25, 2022 @ 12:16am 
Originally posted by Diogenes:
I want to be able to install Windows 11 to my Steam Deck and to have it fully supported by Valve, before I install it right now. As far as I am aware, Windows 11 isn't fully supported by Valve at the minute, and it has to be installed onto a Micro SD Card.
Windows will never be fully supported by Valve because it's a Microsoft product. Valve can't support Microsoft products. Neither can Dell, by the way, if you buy a pre-built Dell PC and need support for Windows, chances are, they'll direct you to Microsoft support. You may want to consider the definion of "fully supported".

Well, that, and whoever told you, you had to install Windows onto SD cards, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lied.
Same goes for updates, they lied. Either directly or by omission (we know that Windows-to-go doesn't receive updates once installed, but omitting that "to-go" part is still lying, by omission).
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WarnerCK Nov 25, 2022 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by Diogenes:
Originally posted by WarnerCK:
But the Steam Deck is a Linux gaming demonstration device.

Which it has succeeded wonderfully in being.
Definitely. Linux gaming has actually been great for years but people didn't notice because most people are too scared to install a new OS and computers mostly come with Windows. The Deck doesn't come with Windows, and the device is exciting enough to get people to try it anyway. And with the Deck being successful, and with developers wanting their games to work on the Deck, Linux gaming gets even better.
Diogenes Nov 25, 2022 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by WarnerCK:
Originally posted by Diogenes:

Which it has succeeded wonderfully in being.
Definitely. Linux gaming has actually been great for years but people didn't notice because most people are too scared to install a new OS and computers mostly come with Windows. The Deck doesn't come with Windows, and the device is exciting enough to get people to try it anyway. And with the Deck being successful, and with developers wanting their games to work on the Deck, Linux gaming gets even better.

That's actually part of the driving force behind my decision to get a Steam Deck.

Since I already have a Desktop running Windows, I didn't feel the need for two systems running Windows.

See, originally, I was considering buying a Windows 10 Laptop, but if I had done that, then I would have been restricted solely to streaming games, through services like Playstation Plus and Xbox Game Pass, since I wouldn't be able to afford to buy a gaming laptop. Your talking basic Laptops for the same price as the base version of the Steam Deck, so that's productivity Laptops only, which are great for running MS Office, but they suck for gaming.

The only other thing I could have done, was buy a Nintendo Switch, in which case, I would have had to rebuild my entire games collection, on a new platform.

It has also been 10 years since I last tried Linux. I thought I would give the Steam Deck a go, and have both a Desktop running Windows, and the Deck Running Linux.

The obvious benefit of that being that I would still have access to my Steam collection of games on both devices, without having to rely on Streaming services to play games on a mobile device, or having to rebuild my games collection, which is what I would have had to have done, if I ended up with something like a Nintendo Switch.

If nothing else, it would allow me to see how well Linux had developed over the last decade, without having to mess around with installing Linux on my Desktop, or with a live distro.

Best of both worlds, in a sense.

I think that people's experiences with the Steam Deck will vary in accordance with their Steam collection of games.

If a person has a wide library of hundreds of games to choose from, they will love it.

However, if people have access to only a limited election of games, and mostly free to play games, I don't think that they will enjoy the Deck as much as people who have hundreds of games to choose from.

Obviously however, that depends entirely on what games people have access too, and how much they like the games that they have access too.
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ZombieKidzRule! Nov 25, 2022 @ 3:43am 
Currently, I have very similar feelings as the OP, but I would say I am still in the Honeymoon phase with my Steam Deck.

Now, don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE my Steam Deck and I use it every day, far more than my laptop. But, there are still times, like right now, where using my laptop is more convenient for what I want to do.

I have been pretty much exclusively playing games on my Steam Deck. But that is also because I am going through my library to determine what plays on the Deck and what doesn't.

I am 100% certain that there are going to be games that can't play on the Deck or that the screen is just too small. I will eventually go back to alternating between the Deck and my laptop, depending on what I want to play at the time.

Also, I dabble in game development using the RPG Maker engines. While I could set my Deck up with the Dock, wireless keyboard, mouse, and connected to a monitor or tv, that would restrict me to a specific spot in my house. Whereas with my laptop, anywhere I can move my laptop conveniently, I can work on game development.

So...for right now...my Steam Deck is definitely getting all the love. But I can also see in the near future, that I will go back to splitting my time, depending on what I want to do at that moment.

I think each person has their own use cases for their needs.
marv Nov 25, 2022 @ 3:46am 
Currently using deck to play more relaxed games on couch - bed, while using desktop to play esports / ray traced games.

Also using 45W instead of 600W is quite nice these days, and the deck has the added benefit of keeping my hands warm.
Jâbbérwôkkï Nov 25, 2022 @ 4:41am 
I "had" installed Windows 11 on my Deck directly (not on sd-card) & while things worked "okay" I found I couldn't use the Performance settings built into the device. I went back to Steam OS after a short trial because I wanted that functionality. I may try to dual boot when the option arises, but I much prefer the stock Steam Os on it as it's no hassle to tweak those settings, where as in windows it's a little harder to get to (especially since they move everything around & rename the settings almost every Windows version release.
I still have a pc for those games that are a hassle to run on the deck or aren't steam games, but if I want to play non-optimized steam library games I can stream to it from the pc, making Windows re-installation a less looked at reality. I do play my deck in both docked & portable mode (mostly portable cause I like playing Elden Ring in bed when I can't sleep.
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[KAMI] RedWyvern Nov 25, 2022 @ 7:32am 
I've been using Linux on my desktop exclusively before I got my Deck, now I have one I am using my knowledge of this to test Preview SteamOS builds to report and post workarounds for issues I run into.

It's a fun and incredibly versatile device that serves as a gaming handheld, Linux tablet and fancy Steam Controller for my Desktop, over Steam Link for me.
The initial period where I did almost everything on Deck because it was new and interesting wore off, but I am still often using it, because it serves those 3 purposes for me.

There is nothing else like it and I have been looking for a device like it for years, because I wanted a good Linux tablet and like to experiment with unusual input methods, but hate normal touch screens.

I also missed the boat on the Steam Controller, thankfully my Deck can serve as one, but with even more features and portable.
Despite some bugs with it, I have found the duel trackpad typing to be the most comfortable way to input text, if speed and accuracy are not a concern I prefer it over an actual keyboard.
FlickStick combined with the capasitive sticks is also amazing for certain games, e.g. Vintage Story.

The Deck fills multiple niches that I have been trying to explore, where I ran against hardware limitations before.
Because of this, if I had to choose between a Desktop and Deck, I would choose the Deck.
AD Nov 25, 2022 @ 8:32am 
Depends on the game, I find fps games hard to play on the Steam Deck due to the controls. Never really played on a controller before. Still play on the Deck, though, since that's likely just a habit thing.

Besides, my desktop is a mini pc with integrated radeon graphics. It's great for what it is and for its price, but the Deck performs better when it comes to games. Don't really want a powerful gaming computer since it doesn't seem worth the price when I can use the Deck (don't care that much about graphics).
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WarnerCK Nov 25, 2022 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by AD:
Depends on the game, I find fps games hard to play on the Steam Deck due to the controls. Never really played on a controller before. Still play on the Deck, though, since that's likely just a habit thing.
Use a low-pressure game like Portal to practise with gyro controls. Use the stick or trackpad for bigger movements, and then just point with the Deck for the finer movements.
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