Remote Play Together on Deck is bad?

[Evilnapkin]

Is it because of being on wifi, and/or bad upload speed on wifi? I have 500 down 100 up so should be good, but when streaming to someone else they said they were getting a lot of stutters and freezing, even on fast settings. I am assuming maybe packet loss is occurring when streaming on Deck wifi? Seems like a wasted feature if so, I just went to my PC to remote play together the game.

[Mahjik]

Steam Link / Remote Play is just not great.

[Evilnapkin]

Works fine streaming from my PC to Deck. Or hosting remote pkay together on my wired PC to wired players.

[thetargos]

WL has inherent higher latency due to various factors: signal strength (including distance), jitter, EM interference, routing, etc. That is why wired is preferred, especially on the same subnet.

[Evilnapkin]

Yeah but it's weird, when I run games on my PC but play them on remote play on wifi, 0 internet issues. When I host remote play on Deck, garbo. Why even add the feature in?

[thetargos]

Do you mean when you stream from your Deck to your PC for instance? It may be even an issue with many issues regarding AMD hardware encoding of video streams on Llinux (i. e, not great.., yet), so the encoding is done on the CPU which is most likely why your friends are seeing stuttery and dropped frames fest. I am even unsure how beefier hardware behaves with Steam Play Together on the Steam Linux client. Is one of the features that I havev had no need to test, even when I purely run on Linux.

I have tried to stream (in home streaming) a game from my main rig to a laptop, without issues, though)

[Lala Satalin Deviluke]

the tc fails to mention any specs, it may be the deck issue, or most likely (with me), depending on game, ur home pc isnt up to snuff for it, most users dont have high end pc's so remote play is possible even with little issues, but home pc will run hot asf since remote play is so demanding

[ReBoot]

WLAN streaming seriously depends on your WLAN conditions. I found streaming from the Deck over WLAN to work perfectly fine with the Deck in the same room as my router and not quite as fine (working, but with annoying hiccups enough to ruin the fun) with the Deck at the other side of the flat. Hell, I couldn't even stream to my Steam Link over WLAN without cursing!

That's just the thing with WLAN. "Ether is a shared medium" is wrong strictly speaking, but gets the point across. That said, if you get less-than-optimal WLAN performance out of your Deck, disable WLAN power management and see if that changes things. If it doesn't, it's Eithernet or WLAN tuning. Is your other PC connected via Ethernet?

Originally posted by Evilnapkin:

Why even add the feature in?

Why adding streaming over WLAN in? Because restricting streaming to Ethernet would be more hassle than it's worth.

[Evilnapkin]

My PC

12600k
32gb RAM
3070 8gb
Everything installed to SSD
Wired internet

Deck can play games off the PC fine (as in 60fps, no dropped frames or inputs or image quality loss) through remote play on wifi, but try doing remote play together on Deck on same network on wifi, nope, it's ♥♥♥♥♥.

[Duffvader]

Try moonlight... Nvidia-linux based streaming program.

Would work for me, if my WiFi setup isn't complete crap.

My WiFi dongle on my PC don't get the full speed because all my USB ports don't delivery a functional 3.0 USB compatibility and 140-170 Mbits/s is not enough for streaming.

Now I'm using my smartphone with USB-tethering for full speed internet via WiFi with download speed up to 12 MB/s. But Moonlight, Remote play or Anydesk won't find my PC anymore.

I have to fix my usb ports or WiFi setup... somehow.

This problem is killing me...

[Evilnapkin]

Originally posted by Duffvader:

Try moonlight... Nvidia-linux based streaming program.

Would work for me, if my WiFi setup isn't complete crap.

My WiFi dongle on my PC don't get the full speed because all my USB ports don't delivery a functional 3.0 USB compatibility and 140-170 Mbits/s is not enough for streaming.

Now I'm using my smartphone with USB-tethering for full speed internet via WiFi with download speed up to 12 MB/s. But Moonlight, Remote play or Anydesk won't find my PC anymore.

I have to fix my usb ports or WiFi setup... somehow.

This problem is killing me...

https://github.com/moonlight-stream/moonlight-docs/wiki/Setup-Guide#streaming-over-the-internet

Run the Internet Hosting Tool and it'll tell you what you need to do to get your PC discoverable. I play Dead by Daylight on my Deck through my PC all the time through Moonlight. No issues, only 3ms latency, which is why it's weird that RPT doesn't want to behave.

[Duffvader]

Thanks, sounds very helpful.

Also found some bios settings for my mainboard I want to try, to activate my 3.0 USB ports.

That's actually all I need, so my WiFi dongle can work with Superspeed and the streaming and data transfer would work properly.

Update: Got it running, but don't ask me how. Streaming & Hosting via Internet.
Acceptable speed, with my smartphone as a wifi dongle xD

3.0 USB fixes didn't worked...

Max. Video Bitrate: 150 MBps
1280x800 - 60 fps
Ultra Settings

But I don't have full screen, small black bar top and down.
I don't get it about the resolution...

Tested with Tekken 7, latency is great.