Steam Deck

Steam Deck

MRK0017 2022 年 9 月 5 日 上午 7:40
My biggest gripe with the Deck: the screen is just bad
I don't really have anything to complain about other than the screen when it comes to the Deck. Games play beautifully on this thing, it's really an impressive machine, but the screen is just bad.
I haven't googled for measurements or anthing but to me it looks like those awful early ips screens on laptops from the early 2010s.

Even compared to my gen 1 Nintendo Switch, the screen doesn't look good, it has washed out colors, edge glow, and poor contrast ratio.

I haven't measured or researched info on the screen but to me it looks like it doesn't even reach 70% of the sRGB color gamut, and the contrast looks like 500:1 or less. Games look dull and washed out, with poor contrast. Darker games like Cyberpunk look really underwhelming because of the low contrast, dark areas look gray-ish, and colors are muted.

Hopefully they'll add some kind of software trickery to simulate a more saturated screen, you can do this on most desktop GPU drivers, the effect is artificial but on a screen this washed out it could make some games look a bit more vibrant. Maybe there is some way to change the color calibration form the Linux desktop?

Anyway, are you guys happy with how the Deck screen looks? And yes, I know they had to cut corners to keep the price low, but I think they went a bit too low for the screen.
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HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽 2022 年 9 月 5 日 下午 12:59 
it's not great or bad. it's ok.
MRK0017 2022 年 9 月 5 日 下午 11:50 
This guy on plebbit made a reusable reshade preset that helps with the washed out colors. I tried it in Cyberpunk and it improves the contrast and saturation a bit without being excessively artificial. Being a Reshade preset it only works in games using DirectX, so it won't work for emulators unfortunately.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/v80w7u/steam_deck_display_calibration_v2/

This will not improve the screen, the deepest shade the screen can reproduce will not change, but it will trick your brain into perceiving better colors and contrast.

Hopefully Valve will add some way to tune the screen, I see that there is something similar already but it only works for night mode. I don't really get the point of night mode on a handheld gaming device but oh well, I can understand wanting this feature when you're reading on a blinding white screen but maybe someone likes playing games with a piss filter applied, who am I to judge.

Also, a few facts: it looks like the Deck screen has 70% sRGB coverage, which is the same my first IPS monitor, the HP Pavilion 27Xi had in 2013. The first gen switch comes close to 100% sRGB coverage, this means I was right when I said it looked a lot better in terms of color saturation, it is undeniable as there are factual measurements.
By comparison, a high tier, non professional gaming monitor such as my Samsung Odyssey G7 32" with a VA Panel, it covers over 120% of sRGB. A typical phone oled screen can reach over 150% of sRGB. There are other standards to measure color but outside content creation (professional photography), sRGB is used.

If you were wondering, sRGB is one of the many standards professionals use to rate color depth in monitors. I'm not a professional but as someone who doesn't give a crap about accurate colors but likes saturated and deep colors, I learned that when picking a new monitor, the bigger the sRGB % number is, better the color reproduction will be on the monitor, this means deeper colors, with more "pop", ensuring COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION, for example, red will look deep and saturated on a good monitor, while it will look kinda orange on a crappy monitor (like the Deck's screen). Just for ♥♥♥♥ and giggles, fire up your Microsoft Paint on your PC with a good monitor, pick red and the bucket tool, fill the screen, then do the same on the Deck (using Kolourpaint), place side by side, and presto, the Deck screen will not even look red but orange by comparison.
最后由 MRK0017 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 5 日 下午 11:53
PopinFRESH 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 12:24 
引用自 KittenGrindr
引用自 Andeddu
I have an OG Switch and Switch Lite and I would strongly suggest that the screens on those devices are better than the SD’s LCD panel. I hope Valve are able to improve their panels when the SD2 is out.


Have you actually put them side by side? I've had MHGU running on both and the OG Switch doesn't even come close.

Concurred. Sitting my Super Mario Odyssey Switch next to my Steam Deck with Super Mario Odyssey running on both (via Yuzu on Steam Deck) and the Steam Deck looks better.
MRK0017 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 12:32 
引用自 PopinFRESH
引用自 KittenGrindr


Have you actually put them side by side? I've had MHGU running on both and the OG Switch doesn't even come close.

Concurred. Sitting my Super Mario Odyssey Switch next to my Steam Deck with Super Mario Odyssey running on both (via Yuzu on Steam Deck) and the Steam Deck looks better.

It looks better in terms of sharpness or in color reproduction? Of course it would look "better" on the emulator, Yuzu by default forces the highest internal resolution on top of forcing docked mode, most original Switch games run at sub native resolution in portable mode. Disregard sharpness and resolution, just compare the colors, you can't deny that Switch has better colors and contrast than Deck.
PopinFRESH 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 1:05 
引用自 MRK0017
引用自 PopinFRESH

Concurred. Sitting my Super Mario Odyssey Switch next to my Steam Deck with Super Mario Odyssey running on both (via Yuzu on Steam Deck) and the Steam Deck looks better.

It looks better in terms of sharpness or in color reproduction? Of course it would look "better" on the emulator, Yuzu by default forces the highest internal resolution on top of forcing docked mode, most original Switch games run at sub native resolution in portable mode. Disregard sharpness and resolution, just compare the colors, you can't deny that Switch has better colors and contrast than Deck.

The contrast ratio on the original switch is about 1090:1 and on the Steam Deck its about 1250:1 so no, the contrast doesn't look better on the OG switch.
zenstrata 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 1:37 
I personally enjoy the basic screen, because OLED has a much shorter lifespan due to picture retention (more commonly known as burn-in.) Until this issue is corrected and we can expect a lifespan of at least 10 years from the screen, I personally prefer to avoid OLED displays.
Boblin the Goblin 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 4:11 
引用自 MRK0017
引用自 PopinFRESH

Concurred. Sitting my Super Mario Odyssey Switch next to my Steam Deck with Super Mario Odyssey running on both (via Yuzu on Steam Deck) and the Steam Deck looks better.

It looks better in terms of sharpness or in color reproduction? Of course it would look "better" on the emulator, Yuzu by default forces the highest internal resolution on top of forcing docked mode, most original Switch games run at sub native resolution in portable mode. Disregard sharpness and resolution, just compare the colors, you can't deny that Switch has better colors and contrast than Deck.


It does not.
Lecuistot 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 5:36 
Self-persuasion
LordBurst 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 6:52 
Someone did a comparison on YouTube, they noted the higher tier model screen has deeper colors, but lacked brightness and sharpness of the lower tiers. I think the screen must have been the biggest corner they cut to keep the costs down. When I get one in person I will make my own judgement
最后由 LordBurst 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 6:53
WarnerCK 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 6:59 
引用自 MRK0017
Being a Reshade preset it only works in games using DirectX, so it won't work for emulators unfortunately.
It's vkbasalt that you'd use on Linux.
MikeyBadtz 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 5:26 
Hey, this from the future. I’m writing this from a Steam Deck OLED with infinite contrast. On November 16th 2023, Valve will release a Steam Deck OLED. Everything about the system will be upgraded including the screen also having a 90hz refresh rate. All your wishes will be answered in about a year.
Kage Goomba 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 5:32 
Nope - no issues with my LE OLED screen.
Frankly I'm starting to think folks have eye problems. (shrug)
Mahjik 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 5:59 
引用自 Kage Goomba
Nope - no issues with my LE OLED screen.
Frankly I'm starting to think folks have eye problems. (shrug)

Look at the date of the original post.
Kage Goomba 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 6:07 
引用自 Mahjik
引用自 Kage Goomba
Nope - no issues with my LE OLED screen.
Frankly I'm starting to think folks have eye problems. (shrug)

Look at the date of the original post.

Ahh damnit...necro'ed again.
MRK0017 2023 年 12 月 7 日 上午 6:53 
Whew, my post is still here. Indeed I was kinda disappointed in the beginning, and "VibrantDeck" wasn't a thing at the time, as you can see from my post I was messing around with reshade presets of all thing to make the screen look better. Anyway, with the latest updates, after increasing screen saturation and color temp, the screen is definitely acceptable to me.

By the way, the other day my friend bought the OLED model, and man, the screen on that thing is incredible. Games like Elden Ring or CP2077 look amazing, especially with the HDR enabled. A huge improvement over the original IPS screen.

But anyway, like I said, the screen on my regular old Deck is ok after tweaking the saturation an color temp. Nothing to complain about now, it's just fine.
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