Steam Deck

Steam Deck

Hatchetforce Jul 24, 2021 @ 6:58am
Valve Confident Steam Deck Can Run Every Game In Current Catalog
All the games we wanted to be playable were actually the entire Steam library. We really haven’t found something that we could throw at the device that it couldn’t handle...

https://www.wiredupreport.com/2021/07/23/gaming/according-to-valve-there-is-no-video-game-that-steam-deck-cannot-run/
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WhiteKnight Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:11am 
If a single game doesn't work i'm sure people will endlessly criticise Valve non-stop.
Last edited by WhiteKnight; Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:32am
Hatchetforce Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by WhiteKnight:
If a single game doesn't work i'm sure people will endlessly criticism Valve non-stop.

Likely. Look how many zero knowledge basement dwelling crybaby posts we have seen already with the ignorant proclaiming a multimillion dollar company doesn't know what its doing with a device they have never seen or touched. Wearing out my block button.
Insomnus Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by WhiteKnight:
If a single game doesn't work i'm sure people will endlessly criticism Valve non-stop.

Definitely. People are already equating the statement about targeting 30fps to mean that either games will only run at 30fps or even that it has a 30hz display.
Hatchetforce Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by CyanideInsanity:
Originally posted by WhiteKnight:
If a single game doesn't work i'm sure people will endlessly criticism Valve non-stop.

Definitely. People are already equating the statement about targeting 30fps to mean that either games will only run at 30fps or even that it has a 30hz display.

Which makes such people utterly stupid with the latter part since the official tech specs have a 60hz display listed.
Haruspex Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:33am 
This is all I hoped for.

Will it run every new, highly demanding AAA title at ultra settings? No.

Will it run new AAA games at 4K with raytracing turned on? Lol, no.

Can we expect 60fps in every demanding AAA game? No.

If anyone expects the Steam Deck to compare to a $3000 desktop gaming PC that draws 400+ watts, they're tripping. The Deck is a 15 watt maximum handheld PC that starts at $400. I don't know why this needs to be said, but based on some responses I've seen this seems to be the case. This isn't a negative, it's the reality of the situation with current technology, especially at this kind of price point. If you expect a no-compromises, high-end PC experience in the palms of your hands for $400, then you expect the impossible.

What you will get is a good, playable experience with new AAA games on a frickin' handheld PC you can play while on the toilet. Depending on the game, you might need to turn the graphical settings down. You might need to lock the framerate to 30fps. (In some cases you might want to do this anyway to save battery life.) Going forward as games get even more demanding, the sacrifices necessary to stay playable will increase. Maybe run the game at 500p with FSR to bump it up to the native 800p. There are options available, and I think it will remain viable for brand new AAA gaming for a few years at least.

Other games will run with zero compromises. You'll be able to turn those settings up and still get a smooth 60fps. Particularly with older games, you can probably output to an external monitor at 1080p and still enjoy a smooth 60fps on high settings. Something like Batman; Arkham Knight isn't any less fun today than it was 6 years ago, and I expect you'll be able to crank that one up and enjoy without compromise.

What this news also suggests is Valve's improvements to Proton are going to be incredible. Proton is actually really good today, with the majority of the titles on Steam perfectly playable under Linux. This news suggests that Linux is no longer any kind of a barrier at all to PC gaming, and you can enjoy every game without worry.
WhiteKnight Jul 24, 2021 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by CyanideInsanity:
Originally posted by WhiteKnight:
If a single game doesn't work i'm sure people will endlessly criticism Valve non-stop.

Definitely. People are already equating the statement about targeting 30fps to mean that either games will only run at 30fps or even that it has a 30hz display.

Yeah i face-palmed on what i read on resetera, twitter, reddit & youtube. It would have been best for Valve if they stop talking about it and just showcase the device.
tyl0413 Jul 24, 2021 @ 11:21am 
Sounds too good to be true.
FatStupidAmericant Jul 24, 2021 @ 11:25am 
the deck for sure will be an emulation and old game beast, because it should pretty easily run older and many emulated games at 1440p at 120hz.

in theory it'll get about 40-60fps at low to mid settings at 800p in gta5 and witcher 3. Something like Morrowind or Zelda should have no issue running on it.
Last edited by FatStupidAmericant; Jul 24, 2021 @ 11:26am
adz Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:10pm 
i am very skeptical with steam os, because i just checked out that protondb website and randomly put a few games i own and noticed they have issues running on linux/proton. now this is worrying because the point for me buying the deck is to play ALL my library.

ive been using windows all my life, and from what i can tell does steam os/ linux have out of the box software like windows does? such as a browser, anti virus, mail app, firewall, stuff that is basically on windows by default.
WarnerCK Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by adz:
i am very skeptical with steam os, because i just checked out that protondb website and randomly put a few games i own and noticed they have issues running on linux/proton. now this is worrying because the point for me buying the deck is to play ALL my library.

The specific games that show up as not working are those with anti-cheat. It works fine for native games, but they see Wine as a modified version of Windows and refuse to run. Valve say that they'll be able to get those to stop doing that by the time of the launch.

ive been using windows all my life, and from what i can tell does steam os/ linux have out of the box software like windows does? such as a browser, anti virus, mail app, firewall, stuff that is basically on windows by default.

Put any distro you like the look of (I'd suggest Kubuntu LTS as a starting point) onto a thumb drive and boot it up. You don't need to install it or make any changes, it'll run right off the thumb drive. Check it out for yourself.
Originally posted by adz:
i am very skeptical with steam os, because i just checked out that protondb website and randomly put a few games i own and noticed they have issues running on linux/proton. now this is worrying because the point for me buying the deck is to play ALL my library.

ive been using windows all my life, and from what i can tell does steam os/ linux have out of the box software like windows does? such as a browser, anti virus, mail app, firewall, stuff that is basically on windows by default.
Linux has its own list of software. I used it to replace windows and unless you straight up require Adobe, most software is there, like Chrome, gimp, audacity, firefox, etc.

Linux also doesn't have the same virus issue that Windows does, so you nearly never need to run an AV in the background.

On top of that it's very lightweight, which is why they chose it.
Pyrocitor Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by adz:
i am very skeptical with steam os, because i just checked out that protondb website and randomly put a few games i own and noticed they have issues running on linux/proton. now this is worrying because the point for me buying the deck is to play ALL my library.
Biggest issue affecting multiple game compatibilities is anticheat softwares not playing nice with it, and valve have said they're working directly with those anticheat devs and plan to have made progress on that before the deck launches.
Last edited by Pyrocitor; Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:32pm
Haruspex Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by adz:
i am very skeptical with steam os, because i just checked out that protondb website and randomly put a few games i own and noticed they have issues running on linux/proton. now this is worrying because the point for me buying the deck is to play ALL my library.

ive been using windows all my life, and from what i can tell does steam os/ linux have out of the box software like windows does? such as a browser, anti virus, mail app, firewall, stuff that is basically on windows by default.

Proton is pretty good currently, but news seems to be that they've improved it a ton for SteamOS 3.0, including working with EAC for games that use that. If the games you checked were multiplayer titles, that's probably why you didn't have any luck, but it should be resolved by release. What ProtonDB currently says is not really reflective of how it will be when the Deck hits.

Out of the box, Firefox is the go-to browser for Linux considering it's open-source nature, and there's also a Linux native version of Google Chrome. I'm pretty sure an icon for one or the other was present on a shot of the desktop, which seems to indicate it will be there by default. If not it's trivial to add it with the package manager.

Regarding anti-virus, considering 99.9% of viruses are written to run on Windows, you don't really even need to worry about it at all on Linux. In fact unless you are routinely reckless launching applications and refuse to use Adblock in your browser, I would argue you don't really even need one in Windows these days. There are antivirus programs available for Linux if you really feel like you need it for some reason.

Like Firefox for the go-to browser, Thunderbird is the standard mail-app. It's very Outlook like, if that's what you're looking for. It's more common to access mail through the browser anymore, but if you really want a mail app it's there.

If you want a local firewall, just add UFW. If it's not there by default, you can find it in the package manager.

Does all this make your head spin? Do you have nightmares that Tux the penguin is chasing you down an endless hallway with a butcher knife? No worries. Just install Windows and sleep easy.
FatStupidAmericant Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:51pm 
tbh installing windows on this would be a huge ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because it introduces

1. Huge security flaws and anti-virus scan bloat
2. A huge amount of background bloat, Windows is a much heavier OS than Arch based linux
3. It's not optimized like SteamOS for this exact hardware
4. AMD drivers are better on Linux than Windows
5. It's impossible to tell what Windows forced updates will do

with the specs you may very well have even LESS performance from windows than proton
Last edited by FatStupidAmericant; Jul 24, 2021 @ 3:53pm
Hatchetforce Jul 24, 2021 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by adz:
i am very skeptical with steam os, because i just checked out that protondb website and randomly put a few games i own and noticed they have issues running on linux/proton. now this is worrying because the point for me buying the deck is to play ALL my library.

ive been using windows all my life, and from what i can tell does steam os/ linux have out of the box software like windows does? such as a browser, anti virus, mail app, firewall, stuff that is basically on windows by default.
Valve was very clear in an interview posted the week Steam Deck sales launched that they had built a great deal on proton and these enhancements are not currently in the public version
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