I really hate pipes and sprinklers

[GreenMan]

20 minutes placing pipes, often finding they won't snap or going the wrong way. Then coming back after 3 minutes to find 2 full small water tanks emptied. Despite having disconnected one of them so it wasn't snapped to the other.

F this. Those garden plots are getting watered by hand, what a waste of time and resources. I try pipes and sprinklers every major update, and they're always a huge pain in the ass to place and use all the water up very quickly. I feel like i'm getting trolled by the devs on this one.

[NukeAJS]

They are a bit janky. Once you get used to the jankiness of them. It's fine. A couple of tips:

- Pipes can normally only be run along a single surface. You can't make a diagonal from a wall to a ceiling.

- You can switch from wall to ceiling/floor but only if it's at a 90 degree angle.

- Pipe connector is used to go through a wall.

- The pipe intersection is NOT a splitter. One input will not go to the 2 outputs -- only the one across from it.

- Everything has a direction. It's indicated by the arrows on the sprinklers/pipes/connectors.

- Connectors/intersections/sprinklers can't make too sharp of a turn. Connecting one pipe to another is more forgiving.

[GreenMan]

I didn't know pipe intersections don't act as splitters, just pass-throughs. That helps a bit. I knew pipes were directional but it's still quite hard to get them to snap properly.

The problem with massive water consumption is still there. Two small tanks emptied in a few minutes is deal-breaking. They were watering six large pots total, and those pots were all grown up, so consumption should have been zero (or close to that).

I don't hate the game or the system, it just doesn't seem worth using for something that should be relatively simple.

[Mayor]

I don't know why they removed the little water pots that held 5 water, sprinklers are terrible and not worth using imho. Might as well just harvest from greenhouses and avoid airship gardening altogether.

Edit: Nevermind, they changed changed it from 5/5 to 0-100%. You still don't need to use sprinklers. I think they would be more usable if they could cover more than 2 large garden pots imho. They just drain all your water from my experience.

[Philtre]

Re water consumption: the sprinklers are not worth it until you have the water condensers that can connect to a pipe system (Pipe Water Generators). Two of those can be connected to one large tank (as the large tank has two inputs). Each PWG generates water fast enough to keep multiple large sprinklers fed, and each large sprinkler can water up to about 5 plants if you are very careful with placement (it looks like the large sprinklers are designed to cover 3 large pots, but by putting the pots back-to-back you can squeeze a couple of small pots into the coverage area). There's only about 20 plants in the game, so once you have all the blueprints, you can set up a fairly compact system that only requires you to replace the membranes occasionally (the membranes for the PWGs last a pretty long time).

If you are manually refilling your water tanks, I would hold off on the sprinklers.

[biosmonkey]

I tried setting up sprinklers and gave up. Too confusing and finicky, and requires too many heads (yes I have the large one but it appears to water only 3 plants) and too much tweaking with getting placement just right.

If they made a head that served a much larger radius it might be worth the effort, but for now it's much less frustrating to just walk by all my plants (as I lay them out in rows) and add water myself.

If they wanted to go the per-plant route, they should have integrated watering into the big/small plant bases themselves, and then use pipes to just simply connect them together in a chain from the tanks. That way each one could be auto-watered based on need.

[Pantherr]

Where do find these pipes, tanks etc..? I found the small & large sprinkler but that is all I have found..

[Philtre]

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Where do find these pipes, tanks etc..? I found the small & large sprinkler but that is all I have found..

The pipes are next to the small sprinkler in the Infected Greenhouse, you must have missed them. The small water tank is in the basic Greenhouse. The large water tank and the pipe water generator are in different parts of the Underdust Suburbs, which is reached via the Overgrown Lift tower.

[Pantherr]

Originally posted by Philtre:

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Where do find these pipes, tanks etc..? I found the small & large sprinkler but that is all I have found..

The pipes are next to the small sprinkler in the Infected Greenhouse, you must have missed them. The small water tank is in the basic Greenhouse. The large water tank and the pipe water generator are in different parts of the Underdust Suburbs, which is reached via the Overgrown Lift tower.

Ah okay then, thankyou very much. I actually did find the small water tank but couldn't figure out what to do with it. All I could do was "add dirty water" or "take dirty water".

I was hoping it was for catching rain water, since we don't seem to have those triangle collection things anymore, but it wasn't..

[Philtre]

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Ah okay then, thankyou very much. I actually did find the small water tank but couldn't figure out what to do with it. All I could do was "add dirty water" or "take dirty water".

I was hoping it was for catching rain water, since we don't seem to have those triangle collection things anymore, but it wasn't..

The small tank is quite useful early-game. You can stop at any Greenhouse and fill up the tank with dirty water from the well, so that you have water for your plants and for cooking (you can use dirty water for both of those uses with no penalty), and to purify for drinking, so you don't have to spend time or materials on the membranes for the basic water collector.

From what I hear, the raincatchers are not available in-game due to a bug, and they will be back once the devs figure out what is going on.

[CyperLoop]

another thing is, there is still some tools missing on the pipe system. like the 2 to 1/1 to 2 split connector, water pressure booster(split too much), an on/off switch pipe connector, angled pipes, a pipe supporter like a thin pillar that can let pipe through instead of wall and floor/ceiling only.

[Pantherr]

Originally posted by Philtre:

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Ah okay then, thankyou very much. I actually did find the small water tank but couldn't figure out what to do with it. All I could do was "add dirty water" or "take dirty water".

I was hoping it was for catching rain water, since we don't seem to have those triangle collection things anymore, but it wasn't..

The small tank is quite useful early-game. You can stop at any Greenhouse and fill up the tank with dirty water from the well, so that you have water for your plants and for cooking (you can use dirty water for both of those uses with no penalty), and to purify for drinking, so you don't have to spend time or materials on the membranes for the basic water collector.

From what I hear, the raincatchers are not available in-game due to a bug, and they will be back once the devs figure out what is going on.

I didn't know you could use dirty water like that, or about the rain catcher bug. Thanks..

Originally posted by Soap:

another thing is, there is still some tools missing on the pipe system. like the 2 to 1/1 to 2 split connector, water pressure booster(split too much), an on/off switch pipe connector, angled pipes, a pipe supporter like a thin pillar that can let pipe through instead of wall and floor/ceiling only.

Honestly, all this sprinkler system and piping sounds way too complicated, I'll just do it manually... Thanks for the info..

[HeYn0wAy]

Totally agree worst system I've used in any game. To big, use to much water and don't even water the plants most of the time. Auto sprinklers lol... joke