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[Reaper_68_308]

Why persons will not stay on topic

[Vi-El]

1 - Performance is an issue that needs to have some eyes on it as it doesnt matter the rig, some parts of the game can outright drop you down to 1fps. Also bigger ships can easily lag the game.

2 - Bugs need to be squashed as well as Glitches 100%. There is a multitude of issues present that is just genuinely overlooked by whoever is supposed to playtest. And if its us, thats a problem as players shouldnt be playtesters as they are far more unrealiable.

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Minor point 7 of my own: Fix geometry and level design where there are either invisible walls or even missing walls + working on the actual movement to not suck to the point where you either get stuck on the smallest things or momentum just carries you into the void cause you jumped onto an angled ledge.

[Kyle]

For me it's:

1) Bugs - there are game-breaking ones and frustrations on the forums like the invisible walls & whatnot. I didn't encounter any, but the ability to finish the game smoothly is important.

2) Performance - Just super important, I also dropped frames as I played, had to exit to main menu & load my save to fix it regularly.

3) Story/Gameplay - It's too short, I don't even need a garden or pipe system, they're more vanity than resource. I enjoyed it, but most of my time was spent messing around with my airship and making it a home instead of actual progression or useful systems.

Things that you'd expect to be early game like the freezer or mid-game like the automated gardening also ended up being less useful than I hoped & unlocked too late.
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I'm fine with them going at their own pace though, just what I feel is important.

[[UA]Ramiel]

All points are... on point (no pun intended), but I'd say it's easier to scrap the game entirely and rebuild it from a ground up than try to fix it. I mean everything - locations, world map, lore, survival mechanics, ship building, upgrade unlocks, progression in general, everything and then reassemble it into what will eventually become an entirely different game.

[rdunlap41]

i find it quite funny that you people would prefer to list problems here where they do nothing productive instead of on the feature upvote the devs started as a place for you to actually list these concerns/problems in a way that could be seen and acted on.

[Vi-El]

Originally posted by rdunlap41:

i find it quite funny that you people would prefer to list problems here where they do nothing productive instead of on the feature upvote the devs started as a place for you to actually list these concerns/problems in a way that could be seen and acted on.

I find it quite funny that you would rather be snarky as a moderator of the forum where a few players are trying to actually look at what people find important to be fixed first and foremost. For all we know Reaper could try to gather info to then present to the devs.

Also hey look I got a lot of things I could report on. Here is a funny funky fact for ya: That report site has a limit on how many letters I can type. So pray tell how am I to do it Mr. Snarkypants?

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Edit: Keep your snark to yourself and dont antagonize the players of the game you mod for. Last I checked this aint the 7D2D forums. And this game aint as popular for you to be able to push it under the rug.

Just dont. Cause I can be a vindictive a**hole and screenshots are very easily made and saved.

[Kyle]

Originally posted by rdunlap41:

i find it quite funny that you people would prefer to list problems here where they do nothing productive instead of on the feature upvote the devs started as a place for you to actually list these concerns/problems in a way that could be seen and acted on.

The performance and softlocking issues are already on the bug site, we're just talking about what we think would be a good priority & why. (Or at least, I am.)

I like to read the forums as I play a game, there were some 'I'm stuck in x biome' and quite a few 'invisible wall' posts, so that became my motivation for hoping their first priority is bug fixing. Not everything is malicious.

I don't know how my hope for them to extend the story ended up as 'work on a good story line' in the OP though. The 7/8 are also more rude than feedback as well.

[rdunlap41]

if you posted an upvote then GREAT! i happen to know they get seen. That said i was actually not being snarky as someone has tried to say. i LITERALLY found the discussion hilarious. it never hurts to discuss something as even negative discussions have their redeeming merits. That said you cannot dictate peoples responses to it either. my response was humor.

[rdunlap41]

Originally posted by Kyle:

Originally posted by rdunlap41:

i find it quite funny that you people would prefer to list problems here where they do nothing productive instead of on the feature upvote the devs started as a place for you to actually list these concerns/problems in a way that could be seen and acted on.

The performance and softlocking issues are already on the bug site, we're just talking about what we think would be a good priority & why. (Or at least, I am.)

I like to read the forums as I play a game, there were some 'I'm stuck in x biome' and quite a few 'invisible wall' posts, so that became my motivation for hoping their first priority is bug fixing. Not everything is malicious.

I don't know how my hope for them to extend the story ended up as 'work on a good story line' in the OP though. The 7/8 are also more rude than feedback as well.

NOTE: please make sure you added your upvote to issues you have experienced as the numbers also matter. EX: an issue with 1-2 upvotes will get much lower priority than one with 50. Sometimes in the programming world (retired programmer) its a numbers game and you have to address issues in a way that affects the broadest audience.

[Vi-El]

Originally posted by rdunlap41:

if you posted an upvote then GREAT! i happen to know they get seen. That said i was actually not being snarky as someone has tried to say. i LITERALLY found the discussion hilarious. it never hurts to discuss something as even negative discussions have their redeeming merits. That said you cannot dictate peoples responses to it either. my response was humor.

Hey, if were engaging directly, feel free to reply to my post or refer to me by name. Keeps things clearer.

Your intent was humor? In a post where people actively discuss what needs fixing? In a time where the game has mixed reviews? With wording that makes it sound more condescending than cheerful? On the steam forums which are known to be a toxic mess?

Now benefit of the doubt and Devils Avocado for you and I apologize if it wasnt the case but you cannot tell me that what you wrote doesnt sound like Passive Aggressive Snark in a neutral setting that is text. You should know that humor translates more than poorly in text form and nothing indicated that it was written in a joking manner.

And you are right. I cannot dictate what you are allowed to write. Im glad I didnt. I told you to keep the snark to yourself. Thats not me saying you aint allowed to write it. I dont know why you think I did. Especially when you werent snarky as you clearly said. So I was wrong, right?

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Now. To get it back on track. I also said something else. I have a ton of stuff to report. How would I do it? Cause Im not gonna sit here for 2 hours to report every single thing I found in detail for I dont know how many posts.

[Kyle]

Originally posted by Vi-El:

Now. To get it back on track. I also said something else. I have a ton of stuff to report. How would I do it? Cause Im not gonna sit here for 2 hours to report every single thing I found in detail for I dont know how many posts.

The reporting website has a search bar, so you could probably save a lot of time if you searched your issues, all you have to do is press the upvote button if you've encountered it.

There's nothing you can really do if you don't want to spend the time, here is the link if you want to: https://forever-skies.featureupvote.com/

You could always just give general descriptions, other people might find it in the future and upvote it, leading to comments from others or investigation.

[[UA]Ramiel]

As feature upvote site was mentioned I just want to say that posting anything there is a gamble. Your card can gather hundreds of upvotes and still remain "under consideration". Legit bugs are discarded as "not planned". Card can be marked as "Completed" only because something looking vaguely similar was added to the game, but not exactly what was described in a suggestion. And by this time attention to feature upvote is slowly going down, new suggestions are getting lost easily and only those with the most upvotes keep getting upvoted.

It still makes sense to make bug reports there, but bugs are somewhat... apparent in this game, so whatever bug you came across is probably has been reported multiple times.

And everything OP listed is already there. Pointing them to feature upvote is... pointless (pun intended).

[[UA]Ramiel]

I would say old garden pots should be brought back. Those with built-in container holding 5 units of water.

[Sairi (Jen)]

Originally posted by Reaper_68_308:

to all in this chat PLEASE stay on topic and keep listing your thought about the game , just ignore the chat mods please , this is about us the players and what we think need to be fixed ASAP and our thought on what could fix or make this game better

You do realise moderators are also players, don't you?

[Sairi (Jen)]

Originally posted by Reaper_68_308:

@Sairi (Jen)

yes i do , and did you read above where asked to post thought on this game and to PLEASE stay on topic

I did actually. My point is, we moderators are also players, so there is no reason to ignore us.

I understand you want people to discuss here about what they think needs to be fixed, it won't be delivered to devs this way though.
This is just a suggestion, if you do have something on upvote posted and you see several others having similar issues, instead of only discussing, also post the link to that specific upvote. A lot of people don't want to search, but if a link is already presented, they're more likely to upvote that bug report. Which would be a win-win. Your upvote gets more attention and devs are more aware of issues.

That said, a fix isn't always easy. A lot of times a 'fix' lead to other bugs

[Sairi (Jen)]

I'm here to moderate. It's not something I get paid for, but it is my job. Saying I should leave because 'players' are discussing is tbh uncalled for and harassment on it's own, since I'm also a player. Hence I pointed it out.
I can report you, but that would be silly... why would I report you to myself?