Real life politics in games

[Mr. Giggles]

I don't know when this was changed but I used to find cool trinkets scattered around the game that I could decorate my ship with but they have mostly changed to anti Ukraine war messaging everywhere I go. I don't want this current dayism shoved into video games period. Please add a toggle to remove this stuff from spawning or make it a free DLC that you can opt-out of as nothing kills my interest in a game faster then using your product to push political messages.

[ECHO_x_ONE]

I will refund mine if so, I just bought the game on sale ahead of full release in case the game turned out decent, game is already not going to be doing well anyways let alone putting politics into it. Games devs like this are learning that gamers just want fantasy and not their bs opinions injected into a game.
There was a portal game a few years back that released and had a poster about how fossil fuels destroyed the planet and I refunded that one.

[Alcator]

There's a Ukrainian vase in the game. That's it.

If seeing a Ukrainian vase in a game makes your blood boil, then you are a vatnik and you should leave and never come back.

Timberborn added Sunflowers (crop) as a symbol of being on the side of Ukraine. And yes, some vatniks blew a gasket back then too.

kthxbai.

[Sairi (Jen)]

There are 2 artifacts which have a prefect of Ukrainian. The plate and pot. It was a silent plea to stop the war. Because no matter what, war is terrible. It was a small gesture to support millions of Ukrainian people who had to fled their country. To this day, many of those people haven't been able to return home. Or what's left of it...
They were robbed from their home, because of war.
You're free to think whatever, but this is not about politics at all. It's a bit of compassion towards people who lost their home, gotten separated of friends and/or family. To live in a different country facing problems like communication issues and who knows what.

[ECHO_x_ONE]

Originally posted by Alcator:

There's a Ukrainian vase in the game. That's it.

If seeing a Ukrainian vase in a game makes your blood boil, then you are a vatnik and you should leave and never come back.

Timberborn added Sunflowers (crop) as a symbol of being on the side of Ukraine. And yes, some vatniks blew a gasket back then too.

kthxbai.

Interesting word "vatnik" you used to name call people who do not want to see these issues injected into video games, the use of this word is out of context and irrational.
Emotionally name calling tells me your irrational in your thinking and can't handle a simple fact that other people may not think the same way as you do on matters.

Also when you behave like you did in your response instead of rationally talking with people all you do is push people away even more, when you tell people to leave and never come back that means sells for a game, which means profit for the devs to keep the game moving forward and a game like this that's small and not going to make much then you just contribute to helping hurt it more.

[Obi-Wonka Nobi]

Originally posted by Mr. Giggles:

I don't know when this was changed but I used to find cool trinkets scattered around the game that I could decorate my ship with but they have mostly changed to anti Ukraine war messaging everywhere I go.

Sounds like you're just having an odd run of RNG if you get the same thing over & over. In my previous playthrough, I wound up with dozens - *DOZENS!* - of Cosmic Cat artifacts. This time, zero. I've yet to get the Stop War poster out of 10-15 I've found in this run as well.

[Obi-Wonka Nobi]

Originally posted by ECHO_x_ONE:

There was a portal game a few years back that released and had a poster about how fossil fuels destroyed the planet and I refunded that one.

You're probably not going to be happy with this game since its background is based on how man-made smog, pollution & complacency ruined the environment and brought about a virus that made Earth inhospitable to humans.

[Foxen]

Originally posted by Obi-Wonka Nobi:

Originally posted by ECHO_x_ONE:

There was a portal game a few years back that released and had a poster about how fossil fuels destroyed the planet and I refunded that one.

You're probably not going to be happy with this game since its background is based on how man-made smog, pollution & complacency ruined the environment and brought about a virus that made Earth inhospitable to humans.

That's exactly what I thought about that, too.
Playing a game that's based on such a background whilst complaining about items that one could just see as what they are (a vase, a plate and a poster!) brings the term 'snowflake' to my mind.
Remember:
It's only political if you want to see it as that!
Otherwise it's just items in a game...

[roterfelsen]

English (translated by Google):
I don't find it disturbing! Ultimately, it's up to each individual whether they collect the objects. If so, I find it a bit one-sided to "only" present a statement against the war in Ukraine. After all, there are countless other horrific wars around the world that don't make it into the media as much in industrialized countries. But overall, I find Forever Skies, despite all the criticisms I've expressed about the game so far, to be pleasantly apolitical. There are entirely different cases.

German:
Ich finde es nicht störend! Es ist schließlich jedem selbst überlassen, ob man die Objekte aufsammelt. Wenn dann finde ich es höchstens etwas einseitig, "nur" ein Statement gegen den Ukraine-Krieg darzustellen. Es gibt schliesslich noch eine Vielzahl weiterer entsetzliche Kriege in der Welt, die es aber nicht so intensiv in die Medien der Industrieländer schaffen. Aber insgesamt gesehen finde ich, ist Forever Skies, bei aller Kritik, die ich bisher an dem Spiel geäußert habe, angenehm unpolitisch. Da gibt es ganz andere Fälle.

[Mr. Giggles]

Originally posted by Sairi (Jen):

There are 2 artifacts which have a prefect of Ukrainian. The plate and pot. It was a silent plea to stop the war. Because no matter what, war is terrible. It was a small gesture to support millions of Ukrainian people who had to fled their country. To this day, many of those people haven't been able to return home. Or what's left of it...
They were robbed from their home, because of war.
You're free to think whatever, but this is not about politics at all. It's a bit of compassion towards people who lost their home, gotten separated of friends and/or family. To live in a different country facing problems like communication issues and who knows what.

These things do literally nothing for the people of Ukraine and ruin the immersion in the game I paid for. They could at least put these items into a DLC where the proceeds are donated to humanitarian aid. That ACTUALLY helps people and gives players the choice to have this stuff in their game.

[Mr. Giggles]

Originally posted by Obi-Wonka Nobi:

Originally posted by Mr. Giggles:

I don't know when this was changed but I used to find cool trinkets scattered around the game that I could decorate my ship with but they have mostly changed to anti Ukraine war messaging everywhere I go.

Sounds like you're just having an odd run of RNG if you get the same thing over & over. In my previous playthrough, I wound up with dozens - *DOZENS!* - of Cosmic Cat artifacts. This time, zero. I've yet to get the Stop War poster out of 10-15 I've found in this run as well.

It's possible. I found nothing but anti war posters, jars and plates. Outside of the items in the tutorial area the only none Ukraine item I have found is an abacus and a gnome.

[Mr. Giggles]

Originally posted by Alcator:

There's a Ukrainian vase in the game. That's it.

If seeing a Ukrainian vase in a game makes your blood boil, then you are a vatnik and you should leave and never come back.

Timberborn added Sunflowers (crop) as a symbol of being on the side of Ukraine. And yes, some vatniks blew a gasket back then too.

kthxbai.

Putting a Ukraine flag in a game your working on is literally patting yourself on the back and saying "I'm a good person" while doing absolutely nothing of value for the people in Ukraine. Stick to posting Ukraine flags on Bluesky where you can all collectively sniff each others farts outside of my games.

[Sairi (Jen)]

Originally posted by Mr. Giggles:

These things do literally nothing for the people of Ukraine and ruin the immersion in the game I paid for. They could at least put these items into a DLC where the proceeds are donated to humanitarian aid. That ACTUALLY helps people and gives players the choice to have this stuff in their game.

I see what you mean, might I suggest to post a suggestion on their upvote? While devs look at steam forums, it's hard for them to see which suggestions have majority in favor, hence they have their upvote site

https://forever-skies.featureupvote.com/

[Mr. Giggles]

Originally posted by Sairi (Jen):

Originally posted by Mr. Giggles:

These things do literally nothing for the people of Ukraine and ruin the immersion in the game I paid for. They could at least put these items into a DLC where the proceeds are donated to humanitarian aid. That ACTUALLY helps people and gives players the choice to have this stuff in their game.

I see what you mean, might I suggest to post a suggestion on their upvote? While devs look at steam forums, it's hard for them to see which suggestions have majority in favor, hence they have their upvote site

https://forever-skies.featureupvote.com/

Thanks for the suggestion and thank you for being reasonable. I have had mods ban me for "trolling" on other boards because I don't like IRL messaging in games.

[jbarbourx2]

The devs are located in Poland which borders Ukraine. They could easily have family and friends in Ukraine. I get sick of people complaining about politics in games. Just play the game. How could anyone be playing a game and get upset about trinkets that come from a country that's being invaded? Are you rooting for Russia or something? Does it mean that much to you that Russia take over another country by force? I'm having a really hard time imagining whats going on in that head of yours to get upset about something so ridiculous.

[Sasheria]

must be unlucky RNG. I literally have 15 cats (no pots or plate) and like 10 plant poster (which I turn them into credits)