No Buy On Early Access

[Averis]

Game is in early access. Not going to buy it, but will keep it wishlisted and keep an eye on it.

Early access is good for the dev or any business since we don't have to even give a finished, quality product to extract money from consumers. We get the profits now with half or less than half the work, and we just have to verbally promise to finish it years later. You have no idea how many greedy and irresponsible industries would kill for the ability to exploit naive consumers with no self-respect like that.

What if I could sell a broken refrigerator to some naive loser for full price, and then say "Yeah, the refrigerator will be in early access for at least one year. I hope to grow with you and release the full refrigerator by then."

What if I could sell full-price tickets to an unfinished movie which cuts off half way and says "This film is in early access and is unfinished". Guess the audience will have to wait until the director and writers finish the film, but in the mean time we can all enjoy the profits early.

Problem is I'm not a developer or some greedy business owner. I'm the loser on the other side of the aisle, so I'll just wait until the devs release what I would have paid for prior. Early access is a no-win scenario for the consumer, but a miraculous, easy exploitation for the developer. Don't act like both sides are winning.

[Kwelduvel]

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[Talwin]

Some guys get upset over EA; OK but WHY have to TELL others that ?
Your opinion, if someone will buy an EA title let them do that..

[ChipRMonk]

Most of us understand EA at this point. I've been scammed a time or two over the years myself. I could even name the worst culprit, but it's probably not worth the meager effort.

The warning does need repeating every now and then for uninitiated: Buyer Beware. Development could halt tomorrow, and you have no recourse.

[Coops]

Originally posted by Averis:

What if I could sell full-price tickets to an unfinished movie which cuts off half way and says "This film is in early access and is unfinished". Guess the audience will have to wait until the director and writers finish the film, but in the mean time we can all enjoy the profits early.

Many movie franchises are doing just that. Some for quite some time.
Kill Bill
Fast and Furious
Harry Potter
The Hobbit
Avengers
Dune
Spiderman

But I know what you are saying. I am playing several early access games and really don't care if they finish because they are already worth the price: Dyson Sphere Program, Satisfactory, Planet Crafter. Also played several that had successful 1.0 launches: Subnautica, Subnautica: Below Zero, AI War. And I have several in my wishlist and will definitely wait on.
I try to keep early access titles to a minimum but this is one I will probably buy.

[LoboFH]

90% of the EA games I have bought have been awesome games, better than some triple A's and gave me way more hours of entertainment.

So I don't care, it's sometimes the only way for small indie devs to deliver us some good stuff.

[MithStrifer]

Originally posted by Averis:

Game is in early access. Not going to buy it, but will keep it wishlisted and keep an eye on it.

Early access is good for the dev or any business since we don't have to even give a finished, quality product to extract money from consumers. We get the profits now with half or less than half the work, and we just have to verbally promise to finish it years later. You have no idea how many greedy and irresponsible industries would kill for the ability to exploit naive consumers with no self-respect like that.

What if I could sell a broken refrigerator to some naive loser for full price, and then say "Yeah, the refrigerator will be in early access for at least one year. I hope to grow with you and release the full refrigerator by then."

What if I could sell full-price tickets to an unfinished movie which cuts off half way and says "This film is in early access and is unfinished". Guess the audience will have to wait until the director and writers finish the film, but in the mean time we can all enjoy the profits early.

Problem is I'm not a developer or some greedy business owner. I'm the loser on the other side of the aisle, so I'll just wait until the devs release what I would have paid for prior. Early access is a no-win scenario for the consumer, but a miraculous, easy exploitation for the developer. Don't act like both sides are winning.

You have zero idea how game development works.

A big part of EA games is that the Developer and the Publisher are the same, which means they don't have a influx of money coming in from a Publisher to keep funding the development of the game, which is exactly why games go into EA, so they can actually keep developing the game. How exactly do they pay for things like rent and food if they are doing this for free as their full time job?

[LostSchema]

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

[SimoneX93]

reported

[Tenoshii]

Can't remember the last time I bought an Early Access game who's content I was disappointed with. Maybe I'm just 'lucky'.

[James Finn (reformed!)]

Originally posted by Kwelduvel:

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[IDDQD]

This is how small studios fund their games. If we want innovative games (unlike cliche AAA games) to be released then this is the way to do it. No one is forcing you to buy it in EA.

[Blackout]

Originally posted by Averis:

Game is in early access. Not going to buy it, but will keep it wishlisted and keep an eye on it.

Early access is good for the dev or any business since we don't have to even give a finished, quality product to extract money from consumers. We get the profits now with half or less than half the work, and we just have to verbally promise to finish it years later. You have no idea how many greedy and irresponsible industries would kill for the ability to exploit naive consumers with no self-respect like that.

What if I could sell a broken refrigerator to some naive loser for full price, and then say "Yeah, the refrigerator will be in early access for at least one year. I hope to grow with you and release the full refrigerator by then."

What if I could sell full-price tickets to an unfinished movie which cuts off half way and says "This film is in early access and is unfinished". Guess the audience will have to wait until the director and writers finish the film, but in the mean time we can all enjoy the profits early.

Problem is I'm not a developer or some greedy business owner. I'm the loser on the other side of the aisle, so I'll just wait until the devs release what I would have paid for prior. Early access is a no-win scenario for the consumer, but a miraculous, easy exploitation for the developer. Don't act like both sides are winning.

I am right there with you. Sons of the Forest launched back in February, but was a disappointment, and that game is EA.

[Big Chewy™]

Originally posted by Averis:

Game is in early access. Not going to buy it, but will keep it wishlisted and keep an eye on it.

Early access is good for the dev or any business since we don't have to even give a finished, quality product to extract money from consumers. We get the profits now with half or less than half the work, and we just have to verbally promise to finish it years later. You have no idea how many greedy and irresponsible industries would kill for the ability to exploit naive consumers with no self-respect like that.

Are you ok?

[FFH_Greg]

Thanks for your thoughts.

Based on what you've said, it's worth pointing out that Early Access is cheaper than full release and those players that do buy the game in Early Access get the opportunity to help us shape the game...or not. It's up to them.

[Kolinetic]

Originally posted by James Finn:

Originally posted by Kwelduvel:

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