Hunger & thirst gain too aggressive?

[johberion]

As the title says, I feel like I barely have time to do anything before the computer lady starts bugging me about eating and drinking. The food I catch barely offsets the hunger/thirst gain, especially not that 1/3-1/2 of the catch is rotten food. Does this ease up when I manage to develop farming, i.e. higher grade food = more satiation per unit of food?

Furthermore, is there any way to halt hunger/thirst gain so I can read the PDA? Since this is basically Subnautica in the air or at lease heavily inspired by it, I thought a chair might do the trick, but no. The chair, seemingly, does nothing but take up space.

[PsychoTed]

Ye, several of us has complained a bit on the changes this update gave us.
Rotten food needs to be gone.
What u catch is bad enogh to get spoiled by getting rot as well.

Though it's only at the start of the game, they want us to grow crops instead
And Patat gives 30food when cooked while other plants gives other perks.
So when u find the planter, start investigating that option i'd say

Theres also boosters one can use to stay hydrated longer, though as u can only use 2 boosters at any given time one tends to skip that one when out running as oxygene, stamina or immunity is more worth

Regarding pausing when reading.
Not that i've found.
I know Pacific Drive has that option and it would be nice to see that here as well

[Coops]

Several of the plants give 50 food. centepede meat and crickets are also higher levels.
Later on water is very easy to get and I always carry a large bottle full.
A trick with food is that it does not spoil if it is either on the lure or cooked in the cooker. I keep two cookers with cooked food in them and something on the catcher.
Also, you can eat the rotten food if you cook it first.

[johberion]

Thanks for the replies! I'll try getting a garden up and running ASAP then. =D
I had a feeling it was mostly early game problems. Guessing planters come from the greenhouse towers?

[PsychoTed]

Diposting pertama kali oleh johberion:

Thanks for the replies! I'll try getting a garden up and running ASAP then. =D
I had a feeling it was mostly early game problems. Guessing planters come from the greenhouse towers?

My memory ♥♥♥..
But i belive u will find the small sprinkler,pipes and planters in a "normal" greenhouse that is partial infected..
1 Building should be infected.
U need to enter from below using the Docking Plank on your ship or build a makeshift catwalk out so u can reach the entrance/Broken wall..
Then again u could also scan the Docking Plank there, research it and build it if you dont have it
Enter and kill the plant on 2 diff places and u should be able to loot that building and get the stuff u need.

The Distiller i belive was located at a normal Greenhouse
And large sprinklers at the Infected Greehouse if i dont remember wrong here, but assume someone will point out my errors if so..

Theres also a "Pipe Water Generator" available that makes tons more dity water than the one u got early game and also water tanks u can connect it to so u can stock up on dirty water

[Sairi (Jen)]

Small planters are found at overgrown towers(on the roof), while the big ones can be found at the greenhouse.

Small sprinklers at infected greenhouse, so are pipes.
Large sprinklers in the small infected area at a normal greenhouse(you still need the immune booster for this)

Distiller is behind a lock on normal greenhouse. Iirc on the first layer where the gardens start(above the 2 layers with compartments)

[Zewtastic]

I'm gonna ditto this.
I seem to spend so much time just dealing with making food to handle hunger, and you can't carry a stack as it will all spoil.

It's gotten to the point that it impacts my ability to enjoy just playing.

[johberion]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zewtastic:

I'm gonna ditto this.
I seem to spend so much time just dealing with making food to handle hunger, and you can't carry a stack as it will all spoil.

It's gotten to the point that it impacts my ability to enjoy just playing.

My feelings exactly. For this kind of game, I feel that Subnautica had food and thirst really well balanced. This feels more like Don't Starve. One QoL fix I'd love to see is a slider for hunger and thirst. People who really enjoy constantly hunting for food and water could leave it as it is or even increase it while people who want to focus more on exploration could tune it down a bit, or even turn it off completely.

[Scipo0419]

I've only played since the latest update and maybe I'm weird, but honestly food and water are not an issue at all. I haven't used my insect lure in probably 3-4 hours. I used 1 small garden plot with patats for food (boil one and plant the second) and just kept a condenser membrane for when I needed to purify water. Literally haven't had issues with food or water my entire playthrough.

Now I have large garden plots, one for green colander and another for lobster peppers. This keeps my food and energy up, same water setup for now.

I genuinely don't understand the complaints. The worst my food situation got was when I got Gastrointestinitis and it drained my hunger faster. Energy is my biggest problem, but I plan to have a coffee nut plant soon.

[w1l3ecoyot3]

Rotten (deceased) food flying around grabbing my bait has to go !!! (This EX food and like an ex-parrot its powers of locomotion are pretty minimal.

I am well into the game, parked at a suburb entrance and partway into that adventure i went through 7 (SEVEN) lures to grab enough (3) dust moths to cure the photophobia I got from a completely different beasty.

[w1l3ecoyot3]

Update I would be willing to let each and every dust cabbage that stalks and seizes my bait turn into rotten food, seeing as most grown food has better nutritional value anyway

[johberion]

Setting up a garden definitely cleared up any issues I had with access to food. Patats are freaking GOAT.

[Lame_Mule]

Yeah as a new player I'm totally lost with the food system very early game. I get that setting up a garden is the way to go but if very early food is going to be so dismally ♥♥♥♥ at only +5 or +10 with a good chance of rotten food instead, please make lures not bring us rotten food. Of the entire start, this is the only pain point I've encountered.

[RCHR]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Scipo0419:

I've only played since the latest update and maybe I'm weird, but honestly food and water are not an issue at all. I haven't used my insect lure in probably 3-4 hours. I used 1 small garden plot with patats for food (boil one and plant the second) and just kept a condenser membrane for when I needed to purify water. Literally haven't had issues with food or water my entire playthrough.

Now I have large garden plots, one for green colander and another for lobster peppers. This keeps my food and energy up, same water setup for now.

I genuinely don't understand the complaints. The worst my food situation got was when I got Gastrointestinitis and it drained my hunger faster. Energy is my biggest problem, but I plan to have a coffee nut plant soon.

I think the complaints aren't about obtaining the food and water but how fast it drains, which makes you constantly having to eat and drink. It gets really annoying when building, gardening or plain exploring. I got so sick of it, that I just constantly use the "Filler Booster" which does say it only stops your need for water, but it actually also stops your need for food. So for a few minutes you are free to explore or do whatever you want on your ship, without having to constantly munch or gulp.

[Philtre]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lame_Mule:

Yeah as a new player I'm totally lost with the food system very early game. I get that setting up a garden is the way to go but if very early food is going to be so dismally ♥♥♥♥ at only +5 or +10 with a good chance of rotten food instead, please make lures not bring us rotten food. Of the entire start, this is the only pain point I've encountered.

Make sure you cook everything; food is more nutritious when cooked. Even rotten food can be converted into safe food by cooking (it spoils quickly though, so plan to eat it promptly). The game will lead you to a greenhouse pretty early on (IIRC it's the 3rd location you are prompted to visit), and then as long as you have a scanner you should be able to get 1-2 small plant pots with patats (potatoes) going for easy and reliable food on demand.

[Dwarf Floyd]

Continue as fast to the gardens. Get Big planter and the Fruit you find on the big middle pipe (where the unlimited water pool is) it gives you 40 food per fruit and is regrowing in 2 mins. Super nice. And build a freezer into your kitchen so it doesn't spoil.