There doesn't seem to be much point to saves, if the game is going to ignore them

[wyrdplace]

I saved at the bottom of the elevator, after I'd made a few trips down and activated one of the oxygen stations. This time, I'd brought an extra oxygen tank, foolishly thinking it would DO SOMETHING. When I ran out of oxygen, I tried to switch out the tanks, but... no. I died.

This defies logic and pisses me off. But I was okay with that, until I discovered that there is NO WAY TO RESTORE A SAVE!!!

I tried going into saves and selecting the one I wanted. No. It just took me back to the respawn save. I tried DELETING THE RESPAWN SAVE. Then I selected the save I wanted. Again, somehow, it took me back to the respawn save.

I can work with that, but I HATE IT. Why give us saves, if we can't use them?!

[william_es]

Did you lose anything when you died? I've died about 6 times, and don't remember losing anything. About the most annoying thing was my food was really low, and I had to go catch a bunch of dust moths to get it to max again.

[wyrdplace]

Originally posted by william_es:

Did you lose anything when you died? I've died about 6 times, and don't remember losing anything. About the most annoying thing was my food was really low, and I had to go catch a bunch of dust moths to get it to max again.

I was exploring. So, no, I don't think I lost anything. But I had to go all the way back through those twisted catwalks and caverns again to find where I'd left off.

[william_es]

Call it a learning experience. Most of us thought oxygen tanks worked the same way you thought. We all learned the hard way (1 of my 6 deaths was due to suffocation in the underdust). It's an early access game, and there's little information out there, and some game mechanics may get changed later on (like how short the oxygen tanks last).

I never personally sweat death in an early access game. 2 of those deaths were straight up bugs. Like falling through a solid floor when the ship was shaking. Some kind of collision bug. I generally say "WTF!!!", then laugh my butt off when these happen, then pick up again where I died.

[wyrdplace]

I don't mind dying normally. Just when it defies logic. I understand that EA might have bugs, but what bugs me about this was just that I have all these save files and they all restore to the same place. What's up with that?

I think the only other time I've died in this game (I'm playing on Easy, since I always like to see what I'll be up against before I crank the difficulty up), was when I wanted to see if I could actually fall off a platform. It was so easy to stay ON them, I decided to take a jump that was probably too far.... and it was.

[Dirmagnos]

Depending on difficulty selected, player can lose percentage of loot.
As far as oxygen tanks go, they just extend player supply of oxygen, they do not have capacity by themselves. So swapping tanks simply increases max capacity, but does not add any oxygen.

[jessicaahall]

I honestly do not understand why we can make a small oxygen tank when we already have one equipped from the beginning and having a 2nd one and switching doesn't help. Not sure why we have that option.

[Rev. Dr. Broklynite]

Originally posted by jessicaahall:

I honestly do not understand why we can make a small oxygen tank when we already have one equipped from the beginning and having a 2nd one and switching doesn't help. Not sure why we have that option.

As someone previously mentioned, I'd chalk this up to arguably an early-access whoopsie. I suppose you could, in theory, drop your small oxy tank for whatever reason and need to build a new one. But it does need to be better communicated that the lack of swappability is not a bug but a feature, so to speak.

[jessicaahall]

Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Broklynite:

Originally posted by jessicaahall:

I honestly do not understand why we can make a small oxygen tank when we already have one equipped from the beginning and having a 2nd one and switching doesn't help. Not sure why we have that option.

As someone previously mentioned, I'd chalk this up to arguably an early-access whoopsie. I suppose you could, in theory, drop your small oxy tank for whatever reason and need to build a new one. But it does need to be better communicated that the lack of swappability is not a bug but a feature, so to speak.

That is true since it is removable. And, yeah, early access :-) Great game though!!

[Rev. Dr. Broklynite]

Originally posted by jessicaahall:

Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Broklynite:

As someone previously mentioned, I'd chalk this up to arguably an early-access whoopsie. I suppose you could, in theory, drop your small oxy tank for whatever reason and need to build a new one. But it does need to be better communicated that the lack of swappability is not a bug but a feature, so to speak.

That is true since it is removable. And, yeah, early access :-) Great game though!!

Ah, it just clicked in my head why. It's removable because you can upgrade it. You could in theory build a new one and upgrade it instead, but it makes more sense, I think, to take your current one and upgrade that instead. But in order to do so, you need to remove it.

[wyrdplace]

Since a human being can hold their breath for a minute or two, it shouldn't be a big deal to drop one tank and screw the other one into place. At any rate, the description of the tank in the organic replicator mentions that it will increase capacity to build a second tank.

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I also thought that having a second tank would help. The game should really make it so that the tanks are swappable or make it clear that they are not.

[wyrdplace]

I just learned how to build the "Medium Oxygen Tank." That definitely makes delving into the tunnels easier. You still need oxygen refreshing stations, but you can look around without dying.

[Cesar]

Do you mean to say you're in a place where the game ignores the saves? I just got through trying them out and they work. I went back three days, I saved the game, jumped off a platform, responded, then quit without saving and went back to the previous save.

Are you perhaps playing on a console and saves don't work?

[wyrdplace]

Originally posted by Cesar:

Do you mean to say you're in a place where the game ignores the saves? I just got through trying them out and they work. I went back three days, I saved the game, jumped off a platform, responded, then quit without saving and went back to the previous save.

Are you perhaps playing on a console and saves don't work?

No, I'm on PC. I had a save that was made at one of the oxygen stations and I died shortly after that. What pissed me off was mostly that I was teleported back to my ship and had to find my way down to where I was. I tried restoring the save with the image of the oxygen station and I was back at my ship. So I tried deleting the most current save, which had an image of my ship and was created when I respawned. I thought maybe the most current save overrode my previous saves. It didn't work. I still ended up back at my ship when I entered the game.

[DeLindsay]

Originally posted by william_es:

Call it a learning experience. Most of us thought oxygen tanks worked the same way you thought.

Nope, not me, I totally didn't make (6) small Oxygen canisters thinking they were 1-use items before I realized they were permanent and the Elevator or the Blue plants refreshed it... Nope, not me at all heh.