game really needs to be optimized

[Zentaki]

Game lags a lot, even with low setting.
Sometimes it lags a lot in certain specific locations.

[Smartik1]

What's your hardware? Are you on a laptop?

[Coops]

Early Access. We don't expect it to be optimized.

[NightShadowXO]

So.. What's you're hardware? Right now i am playing the game just fine with a i7 with GTX 1070 and DDR3 ram running at 60fps with my settings on Med to High.

[Smartik1]

The first thing that comes to mind when people get terrible performance on low settings is that they are on a laptop and the integrated graphics are getting used instead of dedicated. In most cases they need to go to Nvidia Control Panel -> Manage 3D settings -> Program Settings -> Add the game executable and choose to use dedicated graphics. Most indie games don't have an Nvidia profile set up out of the box. Would really need him to answer the questions before knowing how to address it though.

[jessicaahall]

I play on a laptop, here are my specs:

Intel Core i7 11th Gen 11800H 2.3GHz Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6
32GB DDR4-3200 RAM
1TB Solid State Drive (Husband either added an additional SSD or replaced this one, I have no idea what it is though, but he did something)
17.3" Full HD IPS 300Hz Display

I have all the graphics set to medium, it originally went to epic, but because of past experiences with games and laptops overheating, I erred on the side of caution and changed it to medium. The game still looks amazingly beautiful, so I do not think my experience is lacking due to the quality of graphics.

Lag experiences -

Above the dust, I have pretty much no lag. Maybe once in a while, but honestly it is like a small blip. Not anything to complain about. During the rain, I don't have lag which really surprised me as most of my early access (and some released) games have lag, sometimes really bad, during rain.

When going down under the dust, I do have bad lag. Not slideshow bad though, but pretty noticeable. It calms down once I get down there and the elevator opens. Throughout the underdust it does not run as smooth as above, but it is not unplayable at all. One thing I did notice though is that the more I go down to the underdust the lag is less noticeable.

I am not saying everyone's experience is the same as mine, but I just figured that I would post my experience and specs. I feel like the more people that do so will give the devs more data to work from (I did email them all of this info too).

[NightShadowXO]

Originally posted by jessicaahall:

I play on a laptop, here are my specs:

Intel Core i7 11th Gen 11800H 2.3GHz Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6
32GB DDR4-3200 RAM
1TB Solid State Drive (Husband either added an additional SSD or replaced this one, I have no idea what it is though, but he did something)
17.3" Full HD IPS 300Hz Display

I have all the graphics set to medium, it originally went to epic, but because of past experiences with games and laptops overheating, I erred on the side of caution and changed it to medium. The game still looks amazingly beautiful, so I do not think my experience is lacking due to the quality of graphics.

Lag experiences -

Above the dust, I have pretty much no lag. Maybe once in a while, but honestly it is like a small blip. Not anything to complain about. During the rain, I don't have lag which really surprised me as most of my early access (and some released) games have lag, sometimes really bad, during rain.

When going down under the dust, I do have bad lag. Not slideshow bad though, but pretty noticeable. It calms down once I get down there and the elevator opens. Throughout the underdust it does not run as smooth as above, but it is not unplayable at all. One thing I did notice though is that the more I go down to the underdust the lag is less noticeable.

I am not saying everyone's experience is the same as mine, but I just figured that I would post my experience and specs. I feel like the more people that do so will give the devs more data to work from (I did email them all of this info too).

Please try the comment above and follow his directions to make sure you're PC did not switch to CPU! Make sure the pc is using GPU in the settings to run you're games. This PC should be able to Max this game out but please be aware that this is a early access and things like FPS and bugs needs to be fixed. The risks of playing Early Access games.
Let me know if that works before Continuing.

[jessicaahall]

Originally posted by NightShadowXO:

Originally posted by jessicaahall:

I play on a laptop, here are my specs:

Intel Core i7 11th Gen 11800H 2.3GHz Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6
32GB DDR4-3200 RAM
1TB Solid State Drive (Husband either added an additional SSD or replaced this one, I have no idea what it is though, but he did something)
17.3" Full HD IPS 300Hz Display

I have all the graphics set to medium, it originally went to epic, but because of past experiences with games and laptops overheating, I erred on the side of caution and changed it to medium. The game still looks amazingly beautiful, so I do not think my experience is lacking due to the quality of graphics.

Lag experiences -

Above the dust, I have pretty much no lag. Maybe once in a while, but honestly it is like a small blip. Not anything to complain about. During the rain, I don't have lag which really surprised me as most of my early access (and some released) games have lag, sometimes really bad, during rain.

When going down under the dust, I do have bad lag. Not slideshow bad though, but pretty noticeable. It calms down once I get down there and the elevator opens. Throughout the underdust it does not run as smooth as above, but it is not unplayable at all. One thing I did notice though is that the more I go down to the underdust the lag is less noticeable.

I am not saying everyone's experience is the same as mine, but I just figured that I would post my experience and specs. I feel like the more people that do so will give the devs more data to work from (I did email them all of this info too).

Please try the comment above and follow his directions to make sure you're PC did not switch to CPU! Make sure the pc is using GPU in the settings to run you're games. This PC should be able to Max this game out but please be aware that this is a early access and things like FPS and bugs needs to be fixed. The risks of playing Early Access games.
Let me know if that works before Continuing.

Hi, I do plan on doing that tomorrow, it is time for bed now :-) So tired. I honestly think I had to do this exact thing a while ago for another game I was playing. But I really don't remember, it was so long ago. The lag doesn't really bother me, it is early access so it just is something that happens. In all honesty, this game runs much better than most of the early access games out there. :-)

[ShadowBastard69]

yeah optimization is pretty rough still, game has only been in EA a couple days though im sure we will get patches in the near future.

[Senzoba]

Originally posted by Zentaki:

Game lags a lot, even with low setting.
Sometimes it lags a lot in certain specific locations.

What would be the point in optimizing it now when more content is going to come out and potentially break any optimizations added wait until its released to optimize

[Smartik1]

Originally posted by jessicaahall:

Originally posted by NightShadowXO:

Please try the comment above and follow his directions to make sure you're PC did not switch to CPU! Make sure the pc is using GPU in the settings to run you're games. This PC should be able to Max this game out but please be aware that this is a early access and things like FPS and bugs needs to be fixed. The risks of playing Early Access games.
Let me know if that works before Continuing.

Hi, I do plan on doing that tomorrow, it is time for bed now :-) So tired. I honestly think I had to do this exact thing a while ago for another game I was playing. But I really don't remember, it was so long ago. The lag doesn't really bother me, it is early access so it just is something that happens. In all honesty, this game runs much better than most of the early access games out there. :-)

I wrote a step by step guide with screenshots for another game. It will be exactly the same, just different executable.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1884241372

[Asmosis]

Originally posted by Senzoba:

Originally posted by Zentaki:

Game lags a lot, even with low setting.
Sometimes it lags a lot in certain specific locations.

What would be the point in optimizing it now when more content is going to come out and potentially break any optimizations added wait until its released to optimize

Because leaving it till the last minute means things that would have been easy to fix now become core critical systems that can't be changed later on without redoing everything thats built on top of them.

Optimization work should be running in parallel to development (which will be the case here anyway) otherwise you can end up with an unstable mess and lose large chunks of work that needs to be completely redone. The presence of optimization issues doesnt mean the absence of work on it.

[juskom95]

Originally posted by Senzoba:

Originally posted by Zentaki:

Game lags a lot, even with low setting.
Sometimes it lags a lot in certain specific locations.

What would be the point in optimizing it now when more content is going to come out and potentially break any optimizations added wait until its released to optimize

There is a difference between true/full optimization and making the game playable.

I had a hell of a time getting above 7fps and I don't have a weak rig, it was so bad that I almost thought about getting a refund.

[j.cube1987]

First few hours was ok, now its lagging so much, that iam not able to play. After loading its freezing... RTX 3060ti, i7. Any other games on ultra without problem.

[Zentaki]

the game deos have issues regarding performance, any experience player will know that just by playing the game.

Just hope devs put this in the top of the priority list. I did clear the game.

My experience was overal good regarding optimization, by good I mean ok. Except for few places that does a lag spike for some reason. Specifically at the tower with the elevator at the top entrance when the elevator is turn on.
Whatever it is, it makes a drop on FPS so whenever I enter the area my FPS is set to low, getting out of the area FPS goes normal. But that area is set to a low FPS.

And loss of FPS like this is definitely a performance issue by the game. It could be a conflict due to the placement of thing in the scenario, well it could be anything really.
Maybe when the elevator is turned on the game tries to load everything down there. Though when I get to the bottom FPS is recovery, so if that is a problem something is working correctly when the elevator gets down unloading the top area, but when at the top it loads everything when it should maintain only the top area loaded and load the bottom part only when you get there.

Just throwing some idea, like I said could be anything. Just hope this game fix all the performance issue or upgrade it to have the best performance possible.

[Dirmagnos]

Originally posted by Asmosis:

Because leaving it till the last minute means things that would have been easy to fix now become core critical systems that can't be changed later on without redoing everything thats built on top of them.

This is objectively false. This is not how software development works. Doing optimization every step of the way can double or even triple workload.

Optimization work should be running in parallel to development (which will be the case here anyway) otherwise you can end up with an unstable mess and lose large chunks of work that needs to be completely redone. The presence of optimization issues doesnt mean the absence of work on it.

Erm, no. You do work in sections. What you suggest implies spreading workload across multiple instances, at the same time. So instead on working on one thing and then another and then the next, devs will have to jump from one thing to another, without really finishing anything. Resulting in a complete mess from every aspect.